I just replied to it and now I can't access it. Don't think I said anything out of line. Whats up??

slumlord44 wrote on Aug 8^th, 2011 at 8:19pm:


Hi  slumlord44,
So much for a member having a right to their opinion, it seem that you can have one as long as it doesn't ruffle the feathers or go against the ideas of some others. All I can say is that for your post to get dumped it must have been real bad, or really up set someone enough that they did not want any other members to see it. Locking it is one thing, but dumping it, well just how many bad words did it have ? I don't mean cuss words, just bad words in eyes of some others. Be thankful they didn't dump you, if that happened you couldn't even ask why.
  S T

Seems like this stuff comes up every twenty eight days like clock work.  Kind of like being married.

You guys taking hormones or something?  Maybe some of that San Francisco stuff from out in Pelosi country?   

Cat_Whisperer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2011 at 6:28am:
Being relatively new here, could you tell me what the "reputation of this forum" might be? Just to show you how new I am, could you also explain what the "culture of Scheutzen Riflery" is that is at stake? Inquiring minds and all that.

SSShooter those who are dedicated to this sport are the best one could encounter in ones lifetime. Unfortunately there are a few of those who don't agree and continue to challenge the integrity of those who truly care and have been elected to be in charge of our needs through the election process. 

What is at stake?  This Web Site Josh Borton created it on behalf of a handful of individuals back in 2004 and he has continued to maintain it on behalf of those individuals who called on his abilities to create it back in April of 2004 including Charlie Dell who took the time to write and publish a book with the assistance of Wayne Schwartz titled "The Modern Schuetzen Rifle" on our behalf.

As a charter member who called on Josh's exceptional talents to create this site by his father Jim Borton on the behalf of a handful of individuals who were and still are extremely dedicated and serious to teach and recruit others into this sport by their tried and trued methods to be able not only to join in but to excel in this sport by their freely shared knowledge gained over the years by dedication, hard work and an unselfish commitment to support those who truly show a passion.

Unfortunately those individuals have had their hard work, integrity and hard earned knowledge challenged by those individuals who claim to know it all but have not been able to provide any proof of the extreme knowledge they have to share of which could only be proofed by their results on their targets as a means of verification and proven substance of which they have not shared?

I do not include myself in that elite group of individuals as I am still eager and willing to listen to what they have to share in an effort to be able to excel with in my limited abilities.

With that being said if it were up to me I would pull the plug and leave it up those individuals who know it all but have not provided any means to substantiate their knowledge to create their own web site but that is just my opinion.

Set_triger has prety much the exact thoughts that I have on the matter. I am more of a serious collector and casual shooter. I have not even startd reloading yet but I have accumulated most of the needed equipment and will eventualy get in to reloading. I joined the ASSRA specificaly because of the website and the way it is currently set up. The magazine is nice but the website is of more help to me. Lots of good people willing to help with their knowledge. We need to keep together so we can all keep our second ammendment rights. We split up and start bickering with each other over details and we all may lose.

As I read these ongoings, it came to mind that there is a commonality among some member names that keep reocurring when a brouhaha breaks out.  So to satisfy my curiousity, I looked back at their last 15 posts and low and behold, there were several of the same member names in the mix.  Many always seem to want to challenge a rule or a board member's call on something from as simple as what the definition of sand is to how they should spend ASSRA money to why don't they do this.  These types of people seem to just enjoy making life miserable for somebody else.  One hasn't even posted in over 5 months but as soon as something breaks out, here they are. They can make accusations but when it's pointed out that they were wrong, they don't even have the nads to apologize.
We have members like that in my club that always seem to have the ideas such as we should do this or build that but when the time comes for the project work to be done, guess what? They're a no show.
I watched one shooting club fold because no matter how hard the board members tried, they couldn't make everybody happy and they just got tired and quit.  To nobody's surprise, nobody stood up to take over.
ASSRA is a small group of shooters with common interests held together by a small group of fellows around Etna Green.  Quit challenging every interpretation of the rule or the boards decisions as you may end up with another bunch of guys quitting something they love.
I would like to make it clear that I know none of the board members personally, I don't shoot schuetzen but I do love single shots and the commraderie on this forum and I'd hate to lose it. I hope we can all lighten up a little.  Bob Saathoff