uscra112 wrote on May 12^th, 2011 at 11:20pm:


KWK - very good!  Even if we are here at the funyfarm by choice.   
Keep up the good work!

I belive that the no bolt gun tradition goes back to when the Krag was adopted by the military. There was bad feelings from the schuetzen folks about military high power that was at that time emerging as a seperate disipline. I remember reading that many shooters never forgave Hudson when he took up the Krag. There was also Pope's Stand on your hind legs and shoot like a man. 

40 Rod

Okay  why not read the rules, they are in this forum.

40_Rod wrote on May 22^nd, 2011 at 7:51am:

I assumed something like that was at the root. The plain base bullet rule should take the fire out of the military rounds and leave the old guns on equal footing. With that rule, there is no advantage to the bolt guns, and other than spite, there's really no reason to ban them. As I mentioned earlier, what was more or less the German equivalent of the Stevens 44 put the Mauser 71s out of the German Schuetzen business.

Which brings to mind another question. At the time the ASSRA formed, were there any commercial single shot bolt guns? I imagine all of the commercial actions were repeaters. The single-shot was pretty passe at that time.

KWK, I used to own a Mauser 98 Schuetzen. This rifle is one of two featured in in Jon Speed's 3rd book on Mausers. So far the highest numbered 98 found has been #10. I spoke with Charlie Dell before I discovered Jon Speed and Charlie insisted I must have a 71 although I assured him it was a 98. At that time I wondered why the ASSRA didn't allow a bolt gun since they so had them during the time of Schuetzen matches. As an N-SSA member (since 1967) I've learned that some groups have rules you don't always understand but if you want to play, you abide

KWK wrote Quote:


KWK,

I like your thinking. 

Bugger the rules written by the oppressors who require power over others to inflate their egos - I'll do what Pope did and take my 30 ARMY Hiwall deer hunting!      

Your suspicions are wrong! As I stated in the earliest posts of this thread, it's simple curiosity. There's no denying I lack "standing" in lawyer-speak. I'm in the ASSRA for the Archives and the magazine. I take my single shots to the range with friends and family; I don't drive them a 100 miles to an organized shoot.

I didn't locate a copy of the Association's charter on the site. This forum post, not contested, was the closest I could come to a statement of purpose for the Association:

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I find nothing about action type or country of origin in that statement. If that's elsewhere in the charter, so be it; otherwise, I did have a valid point.

I must admit I see one reason to Ban All Bolts at this time. As I understand it, you can show up for a match with a Ruger single shot, an action developed after WW-I. It's kind-a, sort-a, in a way, more or less like the actions from Britain in the late 1800s. Were the directors to do The Right Thing and allow bolt singles similar to those in Rowe's book, they'd be hard pressed to deny more modern bolt singles. "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive."