It's  possible to give obscure examples of bolt action target rifles pre WW I. However we are competing with single shots under Schuetzen rules successfully.  Plenty of competition for Bolt Guns other places.  Have some good ones and feel no need to shot them against Schuetzen rifles under ASSRA rules.

I am match director at our clubs sanctioned NRA Smallbore Silhouette match. Autos and Single shots are allowed its 99% bolt actions. After the sanctioned match is over we shoot a gong match open to all Iron sighted Rimfires. Last few months have used a CPA in .22   M1922MII Springfield and a Marlin 39A  No real difference in the scores at all.  However the mix of rifle actions dilutes the Single shots.  It's a club match and reason We open to all is to give club members with wide interest and equipment a place to shoot.

ASSRA members have a common interest in Single Shots that's why we are here No reason to open up action types to some other group. 

Boats

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Actually, history suggests otherwise. Rowe noted the 71 Mauser was roughly tied with the Martini in popularity, but both fell out of favor and were replaced by Aydt style actions. QED?

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I really can't see where a rear locking bolt single will cause everyone to put the Ballards away! Besides, I wasn't suggesting repeaters be allowed, only the singles.

How far back the bolt action goes is suggested by the side hammer bolt guns in Rowe's book. Really, I'd never questioned the "no bolts" rule until I saw Rowe's book. 

westerner wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 10:58pm:


What about the Werndl??  It's not a trick question.   

              Joe. 

westerner wrote on May 10^th, 2011 at 9:59pm:


It's not a bolt, but are they banned, too? De Haas' main book shows a similar U.S. action.

Would be interesting to see if the bolt advocates here can come up with evidence that the US-made bolt guns displayed were actually used in Schuetzen competition in the USA.   Their use in Europe, I say again, is irrelevant to us - we are recreating the American Schuetzen era.   

Another thought that comes to mind is that repairing and restoring our old falling-blocks is well within the capabilities of the home hobbyist.   I also play with Krags,  but I find them much harder to do anything but fit and finish with, in part due to the heat treating, and in part due to the special tooling that is required to fabricate many of their parts.   I can fabricate a breech-block or a hammer for a Stevens 44, but I cannot make a Krag bolt that would be safe to use.

westerner wrote on May 11^th, 2011 at 1:02am:


Exactly.   

There already is one..... Its the Cast Bullet Association

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This is the gun that made me question the "no bolts rule." It's one of two types of side hammer bolt actions shown in his Volume 2. For a bolt, it's compact.

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I understand the desire to focus on the single-shots, but why this nonsensical scorn on old turn bolts?

I have only one reference on old Schuetzen matches in the U.S., but it's hardly complete. If one day I stumble across mention of old bolt singles used in any U.S. matches, I'll bring up the topic again here. Given the influx of German immigrants in the late 1800s, the idea there were never such guns in U.S. matches strikes me as preposterous. Further, it seems obvious why they were never popular; access to the breech face is poor--no doubt why in Germany they and the Martinis were displaced by the Aydts.