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Reply #15 - May 10th, 2011 at 1:16am
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Thanks for the contact information.
  
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Reply #16 - May 10th, 2011 at 8:00am
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Could this be a factor why David is slow delivering ordered molds?
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Reply #17 - May 10th, 2011 at 12:58pm
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In January, David e-mailed me that a mould would take 4 to 6 weeks to make.  I sent a check for a mould the end of January and it was cashed 2/12/11.  Have not heard from him since.  Also sent e-mail and called and left message.  I'm about ready to call the state attorney general's office of consumer protection.  Enough is enough!!
  
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Reply #18 - May 10th, 2011 at 1:07pm
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Really, there is no excuse for not keeping your customers informed. He could post whats going on here or in one email send the info to all involved. And telling a customer that it's on the shelf ready to be sent and then not even telling them you made a mistake is......... beyond!

It's not like it's a one time thing even (I've watched the problems). It looks like to me that each time it gets worse! People on this forum have been VERY forgiving of his business practices.

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Reply #19 - May 10th, 2011 at 2:38pm
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I called last night @ 10:00P hoping he would be in the shop or pickup at home - call went to voice mail.

Called again about an 1/2 hr ago - same.  Call went to voice mail.
Over the span of close to a month - 3 emails, no replies 
All I'm asking for is a status and then let him tell me why the delay.  This last call, asked him to put a post on ASSRA
  
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Re: David Mos moulds
Reply #20 - May 11th, 2011 at 7:24am
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For gods sake! Did any of you whiners look at that devastation. Which one of you idiots would go through something like that and think, No I can't help my neighbor I need to get on the Internet and tell the boys why their moulds will be late. For those calling did anyone think that it is going to voicemail because there is no phone at the other end? The man may have a little more on his plate than a mould right now. Keep in mind that this is not Ford motors here it's one guy trying to do the best he can. The man is having a run of bad luck health problems and then a tornado and all you guys can think of is Lets start an investigation this may be the height of self centeredness! What the guy needs is our prayrs that he and his family are OK.

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Reply #21 - May 11th, 2011 at 8:28am
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40 Rod, are you saying that his home or community was hit by a tornato?  If so, I could understand the delay but I called him and sent a letter prior to the storms so I should have gotten a response.  No excuse!!!  It appears this man is just a common thief!!

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Reply #22 - May 11th, 2011 at 10:02am
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No Rich thats not what I am saying. What I am saying is that I have gotten moulds from David and found his work first rate. What I am saying is that I have found him to deliver what he says as soon as possible. What I am saying is he had some health issues and then a tornado ripped through town. What I am saying is the guy deserves our prayers and hope that he and his family are all right. What I am saying is that once you go through something like that there are more important things than getting a mould out like helping to get your neighbors back on their feet. What I am saying is that I know David is a good guy and I highly resent anyone calling him a thief.

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Reply #23 - May 11th, 2011 at 11:16am
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40 Rod,
If David would just answer the phone, make a post here or send a post card saying why he is two months late, I could understand.  But not saying a word or responding to my letter and call is totally unacceptable.

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Re: David Mos moulds
Reply #24 - May 11th, 2011 at 12:36pm
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Rich 
I don't know you or how long you have been in this game, BUT I ask you to heed the words of Harry Pope:
If you want to know when I will be through with your work the answer is NOW! TAKE YOUR WORK AWAY I DON'T WANT IT.
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NO DELIVERY PROMISED, TAKE YOUR WORK WHEN IT IS WELL DONE OR TAKE IT ELSEWHERE.

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Reply #25 - May 11th, 2011 at 1:42pm
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I cannot reply to any one else's problems, only my experience. I will say that based on my years spent as an artisan, I understand frustration felt by customers when their money is on the line.
During the past few months Dave placed an ad for "in stock" moulds at reduced prices. I responded, got specs from Dave (promptly) and via email ordered the mould from his wife and received it promptly. I have no complaints regarding my dealings with the Mos' ( I understand this is an off-the-shelf mould vs. a newly ordered one) 

Being a thinking man (?) I wondered why would a guy sell a mould(s) of this quality level for $90.00 (!!!) delivered? Sounds like liquidation to me. I won't pretend to tell anyone else how deal with things but I feel something big is going on in their lives as has happened in my own life. I choose to pray that the Mos' are OK and that thing work out for them. I spoke to a local smith about having some work done. He said it would be a while as he wasn't feeling well and had had about every kind of test done. I have tried several times since to call the gent to see if he is back to work and get no response- not even a recorder. Lord I hope he is OK!
JUst my thoughts.
  
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Reply #26 - May 11th, 2011 at 2:38pm
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40 Rod,
I wish I could heed Pope's words. I would like to take my money and business some where else.  But, Mos has my money and will not give it back!
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Reply #27 - May 11th, 2011 at 4:17pm
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If you look back at my posts, you'll see the links and the video to Mena, Arkansas.  Totally plausible that the tornado has impacted David's completion of open orders.

Also, way back in the posts, ... 'David has a new job and overtime is mandatory'  OK, which is it?   

The tornado was April 10th ...The whole town of Mena was not wiped out.  The telephone service and highly presume Internet is currently operable.  Telephone calls have been made since April 10th and received by his answering machine by me and I know of one other person since April 10th.

I only asked ... give me a call, send me an email or put a post on ASSRA ... what's the status of the open orders.

I don't believe that my asking this was an unreasonable request.  Give me an honest answer and I can live with it and wait if it doesn't extend for months more.  But to totally avoid any communication is not respectful - PERIOD!

BTW, the tornado went through the the center of Mena with extensive damage to the Polk County courthouse and municipal buildings, and to the downtown business area.  David lives 6.2 miles from the municipal building at 1282 Polk Rte 71 and the municipal building is on Mena St in the downtown business area
  
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Reply #28 - May 11th, 2011 at 8:13pm
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I'm as frustrated and disappointed as many.  David was to make me a special bullet so I can finally start trying to shoot centerfire-offhand in a couple weeks.

I'll be honest that I had not taken the storm damage into my thinking. Thanks JohnM;  I am willing to cut him some more slack.  When something like that happens in your town, it may not blow away, burn down or flood YOUR house or shop but It DOES affect your community of family and friends and disrupt your previous priorities in a significant way.

yeah, I honked about the lack of response and think communications could be better handled,  but  shooting or not shooting my rifle is NOT a matter of life or death to me.  So I'll just keep waiting.
  

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Re: David Mos moulds
Reply #29 - May 12th, 2011 at 6:24pm
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40_Rod wrote on May 11th, 2011 at 12:36pm:
Rich 
I don't know you or how long you have been in this game, BUT I ask you to heed the words of Harry Pope:
If you want to know when I will be through with your work the answer is NOW! TAKE YOUR WORK AWAY I DON'T WANT IT.
                                    or
NO DELIVERY PROMISED, TAKE YOUR WORK WHEN IT IS WELL DONE OR TAKE IT ELSEWHERE.

40 ROD

Without naming names I will tell you all that my experience is that gunsmiths and moldmakers typically take an almost-infinite amount of time to produce work. I had gun/barrel work by a guy off Rt 20 in western new york that took so long that he forgot that it was paid for. Just by luck I found the USPS M.O. receipt, informed him, sent copies, and I KNOW that he thought I put something over on him. Moldmakers? As slow as farmers. 
It is a joke, and demonstrates the absolute fact that todays mechanics are no better businessmen than H.M. 
Another western new york gunguy explained the enormous delays by his need to work overtime at $1.5X per hour. I pointed out that shooters would gladly pay $3X per hour for the work, and he didn't understand.
I'm thinking of going into the custom mold and action business. Send me the money and wait. I'm 73, I'll have the money, and either I or you will be dead by typical delivery time, and I'll be just as fast as these bozos.
This also goes for the Cody, C. Sharps, Shiloh Sharps companies. None of them understands how to schedule, hence the silly delivery times.
Starting with H.M., most of the gun/mold guys have been horrible businessmen. Else why no Hoch, Peregrine, Miller etc available hen there's a clear demand. Bufoons.
The Italians and Japanese seem able to make good guns quick. 
And good. 
Stop the nonsense.
joe b.
  
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