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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Stevens Sideplate Mar 16^th, 2011 at 12:17am	Print Post
	Just bought this on Gunbroker. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) My first side plate. Anything I should know or comments? Other than I probably paid too much, which I sometimes do to get a scarce gun. Sorry, still can't seem to figure out how to post link.
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32-35 Junior Member Offline Posts: 79 Joined: Jul 10^th, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #1 - Mar 16^th, 2011 at 9:30am	Print Post
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Reg Full Member Offline Posts: 180 Location: Wray Colorado Joined: Apr 28^th, 2009	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #2 - Mar 16^th, 2011 at 10:19am	Print Post
	Nice one !!!! What the heck, its only money.


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Andy Ex Member	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #3 - Mar 16^th, 2011 at 11:43am	Print Post
	I want one. Would love to see some large photos of the receiver with the plate off. Something else to keep an eye out for. Andy


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #4 - Mar 16^th, 2011 at 8:59pm	Print Post
	32-35 Thanks for fixing the link. Tried to fix it but still doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? There was another bidder on this one. Anyone here? I went with the buy it now because I was tied up when the auction ended and the sellers minimum bid was a $100 less than the buy it now. When you are in that price range, $100 is not worth not getting a gun I have been looking for over several years. He did agree to a 2 day inspection before I made the bid so if there are any serious defects I can return it. The .22 barrel is off a 44 and he says it shoots fine. I have a supply of .25 Rimfire ammo but try to use is sparingly. Anybody know the difference between a 44 barrel and the Sideplate barrel?


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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #5 - Mar 16^th, 2011 at 9:34pm	Print Post
	You have a 5-screw action! My two large side plates are both the 4-screw variation. I have to warn you, side plates are addicting! Regards, Ron


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #6 - Mar 17^th, 2011 at 1:36am	Print Post
	I agree. Where can I find some more?


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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Here are some pictures, Andy Reply #7 - Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:34am	Print Post
	These are the first two that I found. The large one is a 4-screw, unlike the one slumlord found. On the centerfires, there were several grades. Look in the Grant books for the Stevens ad that gives the number. My other large sideplate has extra nice wood and no cut for an open sight - leading me to believe it was the highest grade (109 or 110?).


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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Large sideplate pict Reply #8 - Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:35am	Print Post
	The 4-screw has the trigger pinned to the frame, where the 5-screw uses another screw.
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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	small Sideplate Reply #9 - Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:36am	Print Post
	open view


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32-35 Junior Member Offline Posts: 79 Joined: Jul 10^th, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #10 - Mar 17^th, 2011 at 2:21pm	Print Post
	Since we're sharing pictures, here's mine John Gross (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #11 - Mar 17^th, 2011 at 8:19pm	Print Post
	Beautiful rifle. I was not aware there was a 4 and 5 screw model. Need to do some research since I already bought one. Anybody have the awnser to my question about the 44 barrel on the Sideplate rifle? Minor fitting or major project? Apparently it can be done because the rifle I bought has had it done and it works. As I remember, the 44 is basicly an improved sideplate so it makes sense that the barrel could be made to fit. Seller says it shoots fine. I will find out soon enough.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7331 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #12 - Mar 17^th, 2011 at 9:41pm	Print Post
	Slumlord, RJM and 32/35, Thankyou very much for the pictures. I've only read about the side plates in Frank DeHaas book. It really great to be able to see them in good pictures. 32/35, i take it that yours is in 32/35? Thats my favorite BP caliber. I've built and chamber two rifles in 32/35. Both match winners!!! Frank

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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #13 - Mar 19^th, 2011 at 1:32am	Print Post
	There is a .25-20 on Gunbroker with a minimum bid of $4,749. GB#219996547 and no one has explained to me how to set up the link yet. That one is nice but above my budget level at this time. It was there when I bought mine and sort of helped convince that mine might not be too high after all.


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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2247 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #14 - Mar 19^th, 2011 at 9:31am	Print Post
	slumlord44 wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 1:32am: There is a .25-20 on Gunbroker with a minimum bid of $4,749. GB#219996547 and no one has explained to me how to set up the link yet. That one is nice but above my budget level at this time. It was there when I bought mine and sort of helped convince that mine might not be too high after all. You mean this rifle? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) David

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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #15 - Mar 19^th, 2011 at 11:08pm	Print Post
	Thats the one. I like it but not that much. Would be nice because I have brass, dies and bullets.


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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #16 - Mar 21^st, 2011 at 7:29am	Print Post
	Slumlord, I'd like to see yours with the side plate removed. My 4-screws have a link between the lever and the breech block like the later 44's. However, the patent for the side plate shows no link and the block being propped up by the end of the lever. I wonder if the 5-screws are like the patent design. Regards, Ron


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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #17 - Mar 21^st, 2011 at 7:49am	Print Post
	slumlord44 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 8:19pm: Beautiful rifle. I was not aware there was a 4 and 5 screw model. Need to do some research since I already bought one. Anybody have the awnser to my question about the 44 barrel on the Sideplate rifle? Minor fitting or major project? Apparently it can be done because the rifle I bought has had it done and it works. As I remember, the 44 is basicly an improved sideplate so it makes sense that the barrel could be made to fit. Seller says it shoots fine. I will find out soon enough. You'll have to measure the 44 barrel to see if it can be turned to fit. Some, if not all, side plates have unthreaded barrels. Back in the day, Stevens would re-barrel rifles sent to them. If yours has a 44 barrel that's an old re-barrel, that's probably it. I'd like to know if there are any Stevens-Pope barreled side plates. Talk about a rare beast! Regards, Ron You'll have to measure the tang of the 44 barrel to see if it can be turn to fit your action. Some, but maybe not all, side plates have unthreaded barrels. Also, back in the day Stevens would rebarrel


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32-35 Junior Member Offline Posts: 79 Joined: Jul 10^th, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #18 - Mar 21^st, 2011 at 3:07pm	Print Post
	slumlord44 wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 1:32am: There is a .25-20 on Gunbroker with a minimum bid of $4,749. GB#219996547 In my opinion the price is too high. For almost $5,000 it needs to have a solid 80-90% bright blue, case, and varnish (and a perfect bore which he does not address). The pictures are crappy but it doesn't appear to be a 80%+ rifle. For some good information on these Sideplates, there was an article by John Dutcher in THE GUN REPORT magazine from the early-mid 1990's. I don't remember the exact issue but it had a Sideplate pictured on the cover. John Gross


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MAD MIKE Oldtimer Offline Posts: 655 Location: So Cal Joined: Oct 31^st, 2006	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #19 - Mar 21^st, 2011 at 8:21pm	Print Post
	Gun Report; Vol 37, No 9, Feb 92, Pages 16-30. I'm sure Rudy's got a copy, & ask him for a copy of the cover, too. ...MIKE...


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #20 - Mar 21^st, 2011 at 9:17pm	Print Post
	The barrel has been fitted to the gun and works fine. Will report on the details when it gets here. Hoping the end of this week but possibly not until next week.


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22match Newbie Offline Posts: 8 Location: Kentucky Joined: Mar 24^th, 2011	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #21 - Mar 24^th, 2011 at 9:40pm	Print Post
	I was bidding on that sideplate, I almost pulled the trigger on the buy it now - looks like you picked up a nice piece.

	Kenneth Kik, FF2/EMT-P Die Hard Stevens Collector
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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #22 - Mar 24^th, 2011 at 10:55pm	Print Post
	I thought that somone here might have been the other bidder. I don't mind being bid against by another member here. If I loose it will go to a good home. Gun will be here tomorrow. Would have gotten it today but I was not here when UPS arrived. I will make it a point to be home tomorrow. Hope there are no disapointments. I got him to agree to a 2 day inspection period just in case. Been looking for one for some time. There is a small frame Favorite side plate on GB now that I assume you are watching. My only concern with this one is when I asked the seller if there was any rust or pitting in the bore, he gave me a song and dance and never realy answered my question.


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #23 - Mar 25^th, 2011 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	The Sideplate arrived today and was as prety much as described. The original .25 Stevens barrel has an excellent bore after a little routine cleaning. No problems there. Had problems getting .25 round to chamer properly. Finaly noticed that the extractor extendes into the chamber slightly. Apparently the extractor is for the .22. I was wondering if there were two extractors. Now I know there was only one. Anyone know if there is a source for Sideplate extractors or if the 44 extractor will work? The one in the rifle fits both barrels perfictly except for extending into the chamber on the .25. It has the 7 o'clock extractor. The barrel is not threaded. It is a slip in like tha Favorite. Whoever fitted the 44 .22 barrel did a nice job. Bore is pristine, it may have been relined but it looks like a John Taylor job if it was. Turned the shank down to fit. Removed the threads in the process and it fits fine. Driled a hole for the barrel screw to fit into and another for the forearm screw. It would not be noticeable except for the fact that the hex part of the 44 barrel is a little shorter than the Sideplate barrel and the forearm extends past the hex part of the barrel slightly. A 44 forearm might be the answer. Need to compare one to see if that will work. Action locks up very tight with both barrels. Owner said .22 shot fine. I am assuming if the .22 shoots ok then the firing pin will be fine for the .25. I will find out when weather clears here. Snowed here in Southern Illinois today.


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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #24 - Mar 26^th, 2011 at 6:27pm	Print Post
	Slumlord, Does yours have a link between the lever & the block? Does anyone know of a side plate that was made for a threaded barrel? I'm assuming none of the were threaded. Regards, Ron


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #25 - Mar 27^th, 2011 at 1:04am	Print Post
	Did some research in 5 of James Grant's books this evening. Apparently they were made both with threaded and slip fit barrels. Tracing the sideplate through his books gets interesting because he jumps arround a lot and there are bits and pieces of info scattered thru all 5 books. When he wrote the first book he thought there were only a few side plates ever made. By the time he finished he discovered there were a lot more out there than he originaly thought. My side plate arrived yesterday. Went to the gun show in St. Charles Mo today and found another one. Gun was rough. Points ground off of the butplate. .25 Rimfire with bad bore. Dealer did not know what it was. I decided to pass on it because the one I just got was a whole lot better and in the same caliber. Never handled one before and saw two in two days. Funny the way things happen.


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wthw Participating Member Offline Posts: 10 Location: jamaica Joined: Sep 29^th, 2008	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #26 - Apr 11^th, 2011 at 10:05am	Print Post
	Just thought I'd add a picture of the inside of a couple of small sideplates.


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wthw Participating Member Offline Posts: 10 Location: jamaica Joined: Sep 29^th, 2008	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #27 - Apr 11^th, 2011 at 1:13pm	Print Post
	Hey Guys, Sorry for the large picture I'm still trying to figure this posting thing out. Meant to add a little more info. The upper rifle is what I believe to be a standard small sideplate rilfe. It has a 7:00 extractor and uses a link to keep the breechblock closed. On the lower rifle disregard the barrel and forearm this gun came with a Rem. barrrel and long skinny forearm. The bore was terrible so I replaced it with a numrich bbl and made a forearm for it. I believe the rest of the gun to be original Stevens but it had been reblued before I got it. As you can see the top of the lever bears against the bottom of the breechblock similar to the patent drawing. It also has a 6:00 extractor which pivots on the lever screw. Little hard to see in the picture. The frame is not tapped for a 7:00 extractor screw. Both rifles are 22 cal.


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MAD MIKE Oldtimer Offline Posts: 655 Location: So Cal Joined: Oct 31^st, 2006	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #28 - Apr 11^th, 2011 at 4:59pm	Print Post
	wthw, Anytime! I assume the check is in the mail. ...MIKE...


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2238 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #29 - Apr 11^th, 2011 at 9:49pm	Print Post
	wthw, The pictures may be big, but they are excellent. Thank you. Now I understand fascination with Sideplates. Chuck


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RJM Full Member Offline Posts: 212 Location: State of Confusion Joined: Oct 15^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Sideplate Reply #30 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 7:38am	Print Post
	The interesting thing about sideplates is the variation. It looks like they were incorporating changes in the production as they went. I went many years without seeing a sideplate, then bought 4 & passed on 3 others withing a 2 yr span. Now I've gone 5 yrs without seeing any others! Kind of like Remington #7's, saw maybe 6 of them within a yr & none since. Maybe the lesson is - get'm while you can. Regards, Ron


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