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Reply #15 - Mar 12th, 2011 at 1:09pm
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This one is a 3" job we built for fun 40 years ago.
have had a "blast" no pun intended with it. opened many special events, sports shows, event  national geographic pictorial. most fun was at cannon shoots we used to do years ago our specialty was a 2ball loaded with a 6ft piece of chain welded them together what a site at 400 or 500 yards.
We never won the most accurate trophy but the loudest and meanest.  Used 2 soup cans of black behind a 3" lead ball... and a lil ol musket cap.......
Now we mostly shoot candy for the kids generally load about 2 pounds of candy at a time... great fun. Even old kids gather around....
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Reply #16 - Mar 13th, 2011 at 8:57pm
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Artillery! Yes!  My favorite single shots.  I've been fortunate to have shot 105 (M2), 155 (M115 and M109), and 8" (M110) howitzers in an enlisted hitch in the Army.  What a rush the big guns are to shoot and what a rush to watch the projos land.  A shell passing overhead makes a rushing, tearing, almost snarling sound that once heard is never forgot.

Never had the pleasure of shooting muzzle loading artillery.  A shortcoming that's in my bucket list.

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Reply #17 - Mar 13th, 2011 at 9:29pm
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Jerry -

There's lots of blackpowder stuff around!

If you're anywhere near SW Virginia, join us for the 4th Almost Annual New River Valley Mortar and Cannon Shoot on June 11th (Saturday).

Check with (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) and other organizations as the American Artillary Association and the North-South Skirmish Association.
  

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Reply #18 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 1:32am
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I seved on a 105 in the Seabee' and on the 80MM mortar. One thing that always interested me was that the big naval guns had progresive rifleing, the pitch started out real slow and as it neared the end the twist rate was increased, or so I have been told. I dug up lots of old WW2 ordance on Gaum in 1975 and was amazed that most of the unexploded ordance was still in decent shape. That was my first time ever seeing a real 18 inch round right up close and live. Most of the Jap shells we dug up had jap wringt all over them, one of our guys was our proveriable the lite is on and no one home fellow had a Jap knee mortar round all had polished up setting on his desk in the barracks until the barracks inspection when a smart chief realized just what the heck it was and called EOD after getting the crew out of the barracks. All of the large shells ours and thiers had brass rings with the engraving machined into them. My 105 shells had the same thing, it would not fire unless indexed as that located the holes in the case to vent the gases out back. You could tell who was payng attention and who was not by who got burned from the back blast, that thing could kill on both ends.
I know it would not be cheap but just think if we could devise a driving ring on our slugs to match our bores,  I wonder what the accuracy would be? I think it would up the accuracy a bit as all of those large shells with the bands usualy end up right where you aim for. Most of our gun crews had real accurate fire for the most part, I know the F.O. was always pleased.
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Reply #19 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 9:40am
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I know that unexploded ordinance from WWI is still being plowed up in the fields of France.  The farmers place the shells beside the road where the military comes by to collect it and dispose of it if possible.  The gas shells they store in bunkers until they can figure our what to do with them as they are deemed to dangerous to defuse.  I wonder how many farmers have blown themselves up out plowing the fields.  Here is a link to a picture of a shell plowed up and set on a fence post.  The farmers refer to it as the "iron harvest". (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
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Reply #20 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 9:52am
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I found this article very interesting:  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
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Reply #21 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 10:30am
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Trap, that was a very interesting article. I have seen pictures of these guys at work, they loose a couple a year. Farmers bite the dust too as the plows detonate the old shells. Sometimes livestock gets turned into hamburger early. I was a heavy equipment operator and a blaster in the Navy and we dug the stuff up all the time. But being a blaster did not quailify me to blow the stuff up, we stilled called EOD and those guys were great. Most of the time they blew the stuff up where we found it, some were deemed to dangerous to move.  At least we never ran into gas shells, I do not think they were used in WW2.
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Reply #22 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 11:10am
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Right... the gas was used only in WWI.  It's amazing that recovery of ordinance is still measured in tons to this day.
  
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Re: Heavy Stuff (artillery)
Reply #23 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 12:24pm
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Trap4570 wrote on Mar 16th, 2011 at 11:10am:
Right... the gas was used only in WWI.  It's amazing that recovery of ordinance is still measured in tons to this day.  


A year or so ago (just before we went over to Budapest) they dug out an unexploded 8,000 lb bomb from WWII.

  

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Reply #24 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 1:51pm
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Every time the batallion went to Grafenwoher we'd dig up ordenance of all types including shells from Bismark's day up to WWII ranging from 20mm belted ammo up to 240mm.  Small arms stuff we just ignored.  You never knew just what you'd find digging in the perimeter.

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Reply #25 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 1:53pm
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Dang.  Need to work on my spelling/typing skills.
  
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Reply #26 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 4:20pm
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   John in PA

   Are you currently on a cannon team at N-SSA ?  The reason I ask is we need a few new guys for a 3  Inch Ordnance Rifle that competes pretty seriously.

   You wouldn't happen to be going to the Baltimore Gun Show in Maryland this weekend, would you?  I would like to introduce you to Jerry Coates, if you don't already know him, with First Maine H.A.

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Reply #27 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 5:47pm
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Grew up around a WWII training base. Unexploded shells were pretty common. Drug one up seining for minnows in the river. As far as I know the seine is still right there. Lost a friend in high school. They were playing catch with an unexploded Bazooka rocket.
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Re: Heavy Stuff (artillery)
Reply #28 - Mar 21st, 2011 at 6:35am
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I've been shooting N-SSA for many years.  With 3rd US (Smithgall's team). I shoot my Parrott in rifled class, and a 24-Pdr Coehorn mortar.
I was at the show, but didn't see your message till today (Monday) My team name usually shows up as 3rd Us-Wells.

As you know, N-SSA won't allow you to shoot on crews on two guns in the same class, but if you were shooting smoothbore or howitzer, I'd be glad to help out, barring conflicts with whatever relay I'm assigned to with the Parrot.
  

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Reply #29 - Mar 22nd, 2011 at 12:13am
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The navy dumped many tons of old bombs, and shells off the coast of new jersey for years after both wars. some of them have started washing up on shore. One article had a sea shell company deposit a shell
on someone's drive way. There was also an article about a fishing boat either off the coast of new jersey or long island that caught a torpedo in its nets. Called the coast guard and they took the crew off and sunk the fishing boat. They deemed the torpedo as too dangerous to try and defuse. There was some maps showing where this stuff had been dumped off shore. Frank
  
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