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Shrink Rule
Feb 23rd, 2011 at 1:47pm
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There is a shrink rule for cast iron and cast aluminum. Is there a similar rule for lead alloys? I know it would vary with the alloy. I seem to be getting about 0.002" shrink on a .38 caliber with 20:1 alloy.
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Re: Shrink Rule
Reply #1 - Feb 23rd, 2011 at 2:17pm
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Are you asking for a shrink factor for any given metal or do you really want a shrink rule (Starrett makes them) A shrink rule is too crude for bullet diameters, believe me. I'm a mold maker with 35+ years behind me
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 23rd, 2011 at 2:37pm
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Toolmkr,---You are correct. I am asking about the shrink factor, not shrink rule. Bad choice of words on my part.
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Reply #3 - Feb 24th, 2011 at 1:25pm
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Take the mold diameter and divide it by bullet dia. This will give the shrink factor for any given alloy. 
0.377 / 0.375 = 1.005333
Bullet dia. desired times 1.005333 = mold size required
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Reply #4 - Feb 24th, 2011 at 7:52pm
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Would you recommend getting the diameters from a mold by casting a Cerrosafe bullet?   Seems obvious, but I've never heard of it being done.
  

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Reply #5 - Feb 24th, 2011 at 8:04pm
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hummmmm
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 25th, 2011 at 12:57pm
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I would do a precision layout, but without the correct equipment Cerrosafe should work if you remember the time limits involved with this product. Thermal expansion of mold should be slight unless it's an alum. mold. Do you plan to size, if so add an additional 0.001-0.002 on desired size.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 25th, 2011 at 11:01pm
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Toolmkr,-- Thank You, good information, answered my question. One more: Is there a non-exotic way to measure the grooves in a mold while set up in the lathe? I am not good enough with a spring caliper to get an accurate measurement.

Uscra,-- Excellent Idea, Good way to find the shrink factor I was looking for.
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Reply #8 - Feb 26th, 2011 at 1:20am
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The cheapest way that I know to measure the grooves, is with a tool call a Indi-Cal. they have all kinds of points for them and they work off of a test indicator.You can get extention tips that will measure down to about 1/4 - 5/16. Basically, you set your mic at the dimension you want and then zero the points. They are good for .0005 accuracy or better. Do a search for Indi-Cal and you should be able to find one
  

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Reply #9 - Feb 27th, 2011 at 10:42am
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Frank.
Thank you, interesting tool. Had not seen one before. Let's see, $175 for the measuring tool, $90 for pin gages, Busted three $25 boring bars, Runied four blocks (two usable). Could get a custom mold in the $200 range. Not real smart, but, Boy, are we having fun???
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