One very simple point on change .... take it or leave it.. Several years ago I on here asked if it would be possible to get the journal electronically!! It wasn't excepted by many. But here goes again with this simple change.... I'm sure your editor does all his work on a computer!!!!!Then he takes a disk with the information to a printer and the company does thier thing, they are sent out by someone I`m not sure who.... or at what cost....... now from my understanding this journal uses up almost all the revenue received by the association....  OK 1700 MEMBERS at $6.00
mailed out.   Hypothetically were at $10,200 in costs...
Now take that same disk from the editor send it to Josh he cuts and pastes the articles to the Web Site we have and dont use since 2005 `now lets say we pay Josh $3000 for doing this on a regular basis..... everyone here who wants to see the journal puts in his membership number and password and boom he can read print archive do what he wants and you now have 2700 people on this site regularly looking.....NO Paper to store, file, asking the wife where the one was from 2002 in July, no folded in the mail problems and you just saved $7,200 for that on journal alone.. money could be spent on sanctioned shoots in various areas. Prizes, patches for members hats whatever. And yes you can still print the few members who want paper a journal at additional cost... Now this was brought up before if you want dollars and cents i have the numbers cause Ive done it 11 yrs ago and it grows the association..... we also elect members for the board via our web site...... and we meet monthly via conference call... and vote..... Ive been told the constitution of the association doent allow for this well nows the time guys change the constitution and grow or just let it be....`see Paul this is one example I bring up and ask is it possible...

SST
PS you would be surprised how many articles people would send in for then too....

SST and others for what it's worth. Nothing. If paid members could vote for officesrs etc on the web. Without having to travel to the big meeting.  Wich leads up to believe is a  good boy set up.I would bet money your paid membership would really grow. JMO. Whitey

Maybe in your zeal you missed my point of the just plain cheesiness of an online magazine as opposed to a real hold it in your hands high quality print one.
Secondly you pass off all the hard stuff to others plus you didn't tell me how a.) we can make sure that only members can get access to the Journal and b.) how do we insure that it cant be copied and spread out to non members willy nilly. 
Thirdly Josh is up to his eyeballs just keeping the site going and trying to make a living. I have had replacement pages ready to fix the stuff that's wrong with the website for over a year. and $3,000 isn't nearly enough to let him work full time on us. He still has to put food on the table. 
Frankly the whole proposal reminds me of a favorite cartoon, its a blackboard filler with calculus with a space in the middle that reads AND THEN A MIRACLE HAPPENS. 
This proposal has to please everyone not just you. Welcome to how a board member has to think.

Still haven't seen anyone step up to volunteer for a board slot. Its a lot more fun taking pot shots than being the target.

40 Rod

Well 40 ROD, just to reply to a couple of your points.
Reproducing and sending off a web page can be controlled by installing a program which makes it impossible except for the webmaster. The only way to send it to others is to photo copy and mail now are you worried about people doing that now!
"In my Zeal" as you say is just the point I MADE ABOUT MAKING A SUGGESTION. the reply's are negative. 
Josh would get payed a good amount of money for a couple days work.......... not a full time job and probably a lot more then he gets paid now (maybe)...???? 
As for cheezy as I said in the post for those who want a print journal they can get....
As far as cartoonist no matter what you say here look at that comment as for what it is......   
I'm truly sorry I brought it up for the second time and 40 Rod I'll never mention it again.........
As you put it I've reminded you of a cartoon and Id hate to do that again to you... A few on here have agreed but who's keeping count anyway right?
Pleasant regards
SST
Joe get the Beer cold I'm coming your way.....

I've had an official paper rule book every year I've been a member Dave.  I think they would have been able to print new rule books without your, help? 

Not sure I can give you credit for the new one.   

       Joe.

Recommendation to have Western BOD.

This may come in time and someone may be willing to consider being a Western BOD when it is clear that the Board is actually considering on moving forward with Club recommendations (if and when other BODs seek advice from the Western Clubs and implement some of their recommended changes)

No one in his right mind his going to be the only vote for Western North America when all the other BODs from the Eastern US will out vote him.

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Clubs are shooting 50 shot events and we are trying to report a Club record and not a National record. Therefore why must we use National  shoot formats to report a Club record.

If this is a problem then the Clubs recommend you include in the rule book:

1. 50 Shot 200 yard Bench Iron Sight - called the Tommy Mason event
2. 50 shot 200 yard Bench Any Sight - called the Ron Smith event

We are trying to list records of actual shooting taking place at ASSRA ranges. So why are Clubs being told they have to only report records which shoot the same number of shots as they occur at National events. We are reporting a Club record.