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Reply #15 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 11:54am
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VBULL: I like that rifle. I use the Gould bullet also and it is right on with the rifle sight settings out to known 300. We must think alike.... Grin  Don
  
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Reply #16 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 12:28pm
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vbull - why don't you sell me that rifle so I don't have to start from scratch. Smiley Another beautiful TD.
  
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Reply #17 - Feb 15th, 2011 at 6:45pm
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Don,   Very nice TD !  Smiley  That would be my idea of a nice rifle to use here in MS. during the "primitive rifle" season.  Really nice.  Good wood to metal fit, and the finish looks great.  Single set trigger you say?  Wow.
 We'll discuss checkering that one when we get through with your Ballard, just to make sure you are happy with my work.  Good talking to you today.   Best Regards,   Tim Smiley
  
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Reply #18 - Feb 15th, 2011 at 10:42pm
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Rustyrelx,

Where did you get your single set trigger? Does it set by pressing the trigger forward, like the originals?
You have a really nice looking rifle. I love the stock and checkering would put it over the top.

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Reply #19 - Feb 16th, 2011 at 11:01am
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My "smith" had it in inventory. He had 2 at the time I got this from him. Same day I took this one another person took the other one. I was told the maker was not making them anymore. It came in kit form. Supposedly a direct replacement for the trapdoor trigger. Well it turned out to be almost a direct replacement, not quite. Yes you push foreward to "set" the trigger. BTW I am partial to dst's. I like how this came out and if I build another one it will have dst's in 38-70 with 1-14 twist( I think).
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Reply #20 - Feb 16th, 2011 at 9:26pm
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The Rifle Shop will sell you a set of castings, or can fit them up, I beieve they told me 200 hardened and finished but I could be wrong.
  
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Reply #21 - Feb 17th, 2011 at 6:07pm
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I had heard of and checked into The Rifle Shops triggers but was just gathering "information". Seems I have way more projects going that I can afford.

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Reply #22 - Feb 17th, 2011 at 7:24pm
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Hey Rusty and Vbull. as you are probably aware, I built most of my TD customs to more of a, good grief, not sure what to call it. More of a muzzle loading kind of appearance. The pistol grip, more military looks normally don't hold with me. HOWEVER, both of you have taken TD actions, and created rifles I would be proud to own myself. Both of you as taken  your own interpretation, and both are architecturally beautiful. Aw nuts, they're both just great. Be proud,

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Reply #23 - Feb 17th, 2011 at 7:59pm
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How do you think my H & R officers would look in that stock with Winchester buckhorn sights on a barrel band? The color, bluing aqnd engraving on the H & R Is real good. Will probably leave the cleaning rod in place. What would your choice of recoil pads be? This will be built to shoot not look at.
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Reply #24 - Feb 17th, 2011 at 8:16pm
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Really nice Trapdoor Don! I'm jealous! Smiley
  
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Reply #25 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 9:39am
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Tom, I think your proposed modifications would not only look great, but be a whole lot "nicer" to shoot. The stock architecure on the OM was, I am sure, deliberately made to hurt the shooter.  Roll Eyes I would suggest a shotgun style butt plate, as it appears both of these rifles have. The addition of a recoil pad of the same type would only enhance  shootability.  I'm heading for the range now, as it's the first warm (?) day in months. I'm breaking in the 32-40 barrel I had relined to but in my full stock Gemmer Hawken. I love the rifle, but off the bench the 45-70 with Hawken butt plate "hurts".  EmbarrassedThe 45-70 barrel is fantastic accuracy wise and this way I can use it either way.  Smiley  Say Tom, you haven't mentioned it, but have you had any trouble with H&R's infamous "auto-eject" system?  If you haven't so far, you probably won't, so I wouldn't worry. I'm just kinda keeping track of any I hear about. Have fun and let us see this rifle of yours when you finish it. 

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Reply #26 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 11:13am
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As to the auto ejection I have studied the rifle closely and I can see the posibility of it not being latched completly. I am convinced thes things have been a result of the gun not completly closed. I think it is imposible for it to open once latched. If you read what Dick Trenk said They shot the Pedersoli with the latch out and action tied closed. I reload with the lock at 1/2 cock.and make sure it is latched. 
Sure glad to se the snow gone.
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Re: Built up Trapdoor
Reply #27 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 6:13pm
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Vall: Build one they're not that expensive nor are they very hard to build.
screwloosetc: By all means use the parts you already have. I think you'll enjoy it even more so.
To those that are trying to see the buttplate. The origional "marksman" rifle used a Hotchkiss buttplate. I could not find one. (Now have one in inventory) I ended up using a Sharps Borchardt buttplate.(shotgun type)
I am pleased I did. Had I the Hotchkiss plate at that time I would have used it.
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Re: Built up Trapdoor
Reply #28 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 6:26pm
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Just FYI Tom. The action will appear to be completey closed and locked. If it is going to happen, what you will first observe is the thumb latch lever seems to go down a little further than what has been normal. The problem is a design flaw with the H&R and early Pedersoli, although Pedersoli has told me their design was different. I have seen both. The situation is,  unlike original Springfields, where the whole thumb lever and the latch tumbler are one solid piece. The aftermarket (let's call them that). the  thumb lever and tumbler are seperate pieces with a set screw to supposedly lock the thumb latch to the tumbler. While I have to guess the majority of them has never experienced the problem, enough have to be concerned and observent. Also be aware that the dimensions of parts are not totally interchangeable with original Springfields, although I have successfully put  original Springfield breech blocks (trap door) on these reproductions.  A lot of work, but it can be accomplished. Give a holler if I an supply any further iinformation.

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Reply #29 - Feb 19th, 2011 at 12:00am
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Yup, not only can one use the complete rifle shoppe set trigger setup, but there is also the option of buying parts from the likes of VTI gun parts off of a Pedersolli officers model i.e. the whole set trigger mechanism, and using that with a rifle shop tumbler and fly, I suggest the aftermarket tumbler only because an original is extremely difficult to cut.  I had one cut on the stolen parts and my machinist buddy told me he broke 3 solid carbide end mills trying to do it.
  
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