For those not aware of this, Goex is stopping production of Cartridge grade BP and the Cowboy powder, and some of the Express BP. When Hogdon's aquired Goex there were fears that they would change formulas and disrupt supplies to the BP shooting public. There are those in the know that feel Hogdon's has turned a deaf ear to the needs of the BP shooting public. They almost immediately dismissed some long time Goex employees. This last year they raised the price of their BP 22% while other competitors stayed the same. If you have an opinion or know someone at the Shot Show this year, it's a good time to let them know how you feel about their lack of support for BP shooters.

Do we make anything in the USA except welfare babies?

I finally found a BP load that works in my 32/40. Goex 3F Express.  Oh well, I hate the stinky stuff anyway. Love / hate. 

Our politicians are the best campaigners and money makers in the world. 
I bet they make more money campaigning than most manufacturers in the USA. 

Maybe they'll make Goex BP in China.     

           Joe. 

     

I understand GOEX started to make cartridge grade black powder to fight off the competition of Swiss taking over the market.

It appears Swiss may have captured so much of the market now that GOEX can no longer compete in that market.

Everyone has been saying buy American but I keep hearing more and more of the Black Powder Silohuette shooters are converting over to Swiss due to increased velocities and reduced rates of spread on velocities with the polished finely sorted Swiss powders.

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If you believe GoexF FFg works well for you ... your going to love Swiss FFg.  Even give KIK FFg a try - hot stuff?

As for Hodgdon respective to Goex, I have already said my piece about them.  And take this to the bank ... the folks they terminated, McDonald and Bagwell were experienced knowledge individuals in the BP business ... Plus  they fired a couple of the operators that were most knowledgeable, knowing the processes to make powder.  IMHO - quality will decrease even further.  And the short cuts they currently used to make 'sporting powder' and I use the term loosely - were not equal to those of Swiss and Schuetzen.
Might add, Schuetzen has been reformulated.  Velocity has been increased 8 - 10%

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I've burned about two cases of Swiss #2 in my 38/55 and 32/40s John Boy. Goex FFF Express works best in my 32/40 fixed. I use both brands and I have some Elephant and have used some BP from China. It all stinks, but thats what the boys like to shoot.  I cant tell much difference in Express and Swiss.  Of course I'm just an old fart now and dont shoot as good as I used to. 

                                               Joe. 

I dont know JB. The stuff I used was about ten years ago. Came in a can with a yellow label. Cant remember what brand it was. It was I think about two dollars a pound cheaper than anything else at that time. I got some from a club member that had gotten it from the local gun club. 

The buckskinners said it shot fine in their MLrs and it shot just fine in my 40/65. That was back when all I shot was duplex. 

                       Joe.

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JB, there are/were 2 imports of Chinese powder I know of.  One is called called Lido and the other was repackaged stuff called Skirmish.  It is supposed to be Fg granulation and is made using ball mills, not a wheel mill.  And unless you want some real dirty bores and high ES' plus SD', forget about it because it is fire cracker powder!.  I use Skirmish for my CAS shotshells and it smokes like a fog bank.  Powder Inc is sold out of it and no reorders that I know of.  Lido is sold by a vendor up in WI ... I don't remember their name