The Krieger 17 ROT is a excellent barrel. I have a 35"X 1.3 round on one of my Shiloh's chambered with my .44-100 straight Reamer that shoots very well. There are a few shooting the .44-70's and I have not heard of them having problems with them.
I use two bullets in my rifle, one is a 485 gr prolate from a brooks mould and the other is a Elliptical 505 gr from a KAL mould. Both are excellent bullets for the 1/17 ROT Krieger barrel.

Unless you are stretching cases, the 44-70 cases should be head stamped 45-90, so getting mixed with 40-65 or 45-70 should not be an issue. 

That 'lever roller' is certainly a nice looking rifle rifle.

I saw that design posted this morning from DanT. I would consider it for my 44-77, but the length of the bullet has me a little concerned. My roller is chambered with a standard reamer and I currently have a bullet about 1.3" long and if I set it out I have trouble getting the loaded rounds into the chamber, they get hung up on the hammer nose. If I had used an action when you load straight in, I would jump on that bullet like a duck on a june bug. However if Baco makes the mold available I may just pick one up. Let us know if they will make it.
I also saw where he posted up a 44-70 reamer design with a 2.21 chamber length.
Sam

I do wonder if the cold is ever going to leave PA. I am sure someone will make the mold. Both Sagebrush and Brooks are good  candidates and I am sure that both are set up to cut the money nose profile. Do you know how much that bullet weights?
The bullet I currently have for my 44 is the 480gr bullet from Accurate. # 44-480SL. I am still waiting for it to warm up and dry out so I can get to the range and give it a try while I fire form my brass. 
Sam

nuclearcricket wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

DanT thinks it will cast at a nominal 510gr with 20-1. Sound almost exactly right for my shoulder. 

Lead Pot - I will be shooting BP and don't see anywhere to put the lube on those bullets. I'm too old to learn to PP for BP shooting. The basis for DanT's design is minimize the width of the grease-grooves to be as close to PP as possible. His most recent testing has shown little to no difference between his "mini-groove" bullets and PP bullets at long-range.

My plan is to build a Hepburn using the Krieger 1.3" x 1.1" straight-taper full octagon barrel. Will assemble the rifle with the 35" finished length and see what it weighs. If it is close to making BPCR weight, then will see if can make the 12#2oz limit with a 32" barrel so can shoot it for both disciplines. If not, then will leave it at 34" for BPTR work. Really looking forward to fun rifle.

Have you tried those knurled bullets at 500m and longer? Understand that some folks shoot them at Schuetzen distances with good effect, but am unaware of anyone competing with them at the longer distances.

Also, BACo offers that bullet mold with 5-grease grooves rather than the 6-gg that is posted above.

SSShooter wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 7:03am:


I'm glad I discovered this thread. I have a '77 Sharps project that will wear a round Badger barrel with 44-70 May chamber. I'm going to have to check the twist rate on it. We got the reamer from Pacific Tool and Gage (Dave Kiff) back in 2001. I thought I could put my hands on the print but still unpacking from a move. I too would be interested in molds and load info. Thanks.

Joe B
Middle GA