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Jul 7th, 2010 at 11:52am
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Greetings all; I have a 1915 Stevens that is in great condition. there is no rust or pitting on the barrel, but there is a bit of oxidation on the sight. It's minimal. I am hesitant to do anything about it, other than keep it clean. It's my understanding that changing the original condition reduces the value. What are best practices for maintaining collectible rifles? thanks.
  
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Reply #1 - Jul 7th, 2010 at 2:14pm
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Oxidation?  Are you talking RUST!??  Cheesy

The best way to preserve a rifle is to use it. Clean it once in a while and keep oil on it. 

Thats my way and my opinion. 

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merhere,  Oxidation on the sight is not an original condition. I treat my guns like they've been in constant use, since day of manufacture. If they're dirty, I clean them, if they're rusty I remove the rust, if I scratch the stock, I try to touch it up. There's an old saying "when you're selling a gun it's patina, but when you're buying a gun, it's rust" That's my story & I'm sticking to it!!!      ...MIKE... Angry Angry Angry
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 7th, 2010 at 2:18pm
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MAD MIKE wrote on Jul 7th, 2010 at 2:14pm:
merhere,  Oxidation on the sight is not an original condition. I treat my guns like they've been in constant use, since day of manufacture. If they're dirty, I clean them, if they're rusty I remove the rust, if I scratch the stock, I try to touch it up. There's an old saying "when you're selling a gun it's patina, but when you're buying a gun, it's rust" That's my story & I'm sticking to it!!!      ...MIKE... Angry Angry Angry


Yeah! I agree with Mike.
     
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Reply #4 - Jul 7th, 2010 at 11:13pm
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Something about bluing, which in the early days used to be called "browning" due to the brownish tint, is that the bluing finish is really a very dark hard rust that is tough and durable. 

After the passage of time and neglect, the bluing breaks down toward the softer red rust, forming what we call patina, provided we are on the selling side of the table of course.  Grin
  

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Reply #5 - Jul 7th, 2010 at 11:21pm
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Merhere, I would use some gun oil and a bit of 0000 steel wool (sparingly) on the rusting sight.  Go slow and you can preserve most all of the original finish.

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Reply #6 - Jul 8th, 2010 at 7:52am
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I agree with what most have already told you with one small exception. Do not use steel wool on the rust, use bronze wool. Bronze wool can be purchased from Brownells. The bronze wool will get out the rust without polishing off the bluing. Use it with something like Kroil and go carefully.

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Reply #7 - Jul 8th, 2010 at 8:12am
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Bronze wool can also be purchased from marine supply stores like West Marine.  Another "rust" removal tip is to use an old brass case as a scraper with oil.  It will remove rust but not the steel or bluing.  Go lightly with oil using the thin edge of the neck.

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Reply #8 - Jul 8th, 2010 at 12:07pm
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Thanks for the tips. I will try the bronze wool first.
  
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Reply #9 - Jul 8th, 2010 at 1:17pm
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   Try Hoppes #9 bore solvent with the steel/bronze wool. When I'm finished cleaning,touching up ,etc. I give the gun a good coat of car wax.            good luck   ...MIKE...
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 8th, 2010 at 1:50pm
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With the other guys, no rust or dirt on my guns. That Patina BS is mostly used by dealers or traders working on your selling price. If they want to own "attic condion" fine but no room in my rack for it.

I don't sand or polish out the old finish though just get everything nice and clean.  To preserve light application of good oil on the metal, very light wiped on with a rag,  If the wood is dry some thin oil rubbed in is good, lately I use Watco brand tung oil instead of linseed.  Once clean I give whole gun a rub with paste wax, plain old floor wax. Old leather nothing better than Pecard dressing.

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     YEAH !   I agree with 40-Rod, .   .   .   , who agrees with Joe, .   .   .   ., who agrees with Mike.

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Reply #12 - Jul 8th, 2010 at 7:31pm
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I nagree with 40_Rod,I use bronze in these cases of minor rust along with Kroil with exceptional results and less harm to barrel finish--Fritz
  
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Reply #13 - Jul 8th, 2010 at 9:30pm
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Good advice here. Go slow on rust removal. Trick is to remove rust but not whatever finish is left. There is also a stainless steel scruber made for use on guns that works well with Kroll or Break free or your favorite oil. Bought mine at gun show. Have been told that you can buy a cheap stainles scruber from Walmart that works the same. My experience with a cheapie was not good. I like TruOil and 0000 steel wool to clean up my stocks. Go slow and wipe off the excess and dirt with a clean rag or paper towel. Dirty, rusty guns do not do it for me.
  
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Reply #14 - Jul 9th, 2010 at 8:37am
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This is all very helpful. The spot I am referring to is at the top of the front sight cylinder. It was probably scraped along the way.  I called it oxidation instead of all out rust because it is just a color shift from barrel blu to brown. There isn't any "texture" or pitting like an aggressive rust spot.
  
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