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Remington Rolling block Long Range
Jun 14th, 2010 at 11:08pm
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Gentlemen: It is with honor I am proud to present a Remington Long Range. I've had this rifle over 25 years now. With a little help from a friend I was able to post these pictures of my Remington. Its one of 3 know to exist with a full,34" octagon barrel, 1 belonged to Maj Fulton, 1 belonged to GA Custer, and this one, its of the 3 the highest serial number. Vintage approxamitly 1876 or 1877. Its in 44-90 with a magnificent bore, no pitting and strong rifling. Some color case, blueing, and oil finish left. 
                                      Don rustyrelx
  
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Re: Remington Rolling block Long Range
Reply #1 - Jun 14th, 2010 at 11:21pm
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Don,

From what I can see, she looks really nice! How does she shoot?

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Re: Remington Rolling block Long Range
Reply #2 - Jun 14th, 2010 at 11:40pm
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Once I was able to get the correct brass it shot XLNT, just as you would expect a target rifle to. Previous owner was trying to use the Remington Creedmore case of 2 1/4. He was way off. 44-90 He had over half an inch jump before it ever got to any rifling. Then it had the shoulder of the chamber mouth to contend with. One I got the right brass and scrubbed out all previous residue it was just fine. Perfect bore in .452, and I am certain it was meant for paper patched projectiles. He passed on to me some funny looking brass.

I'm a Ballard guy but just can't pass up a nice rolling block.

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Re: Remington Rolling block Long Range
Reply #3 - Jun 15th, 2010 at 2:00pm
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Don,

I've always had a big soft spot for the original civilian rollers myself.

Not sure if I'm recalling this correctly, but wasn't the 44-90 case used in the Remington #1 Creedmore a bit different than the Sharps version? Seems like the Rem case was a touch shorter length with a bit larger body diameter.

Congradulations on your results, and I'm glad you got her shooting right. The old soldiers deserve to be returned to the shooting line whenever possible!

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Re: Remington Rolling block Long Range
Reply #4 - Jun 15th, 2010 at 4:26pm
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BP: There was an interesting 50-70 that sold here recently.A heavy barreled buffalo gun. Ya I like big Remingtons too
  
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Re: Remington Rolling block Long Range
Reply #5 - Jun 15th, 2010 at 4:45pm
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rustyrelx wrote on Jun 15th, 2010 at 4:24pm:
BR: Yep I agree. Remembering that this is a tool to be used is key to endvor. Finding the correct gear to facilitate it is another adventure to be enjoyed.  Don
There a lot of misinformation out there on the 44-90 so the only proof we have is the actual rifle that it was used in. Also many modifications have taken place in the last 135 years. So forming an opinion should be based of factual examples. Cartridges sometimes have been fired in incorrect chambers leading to all sorts of speculation. Also theres been gun "specialists" forever.
 In my humble opinion:
1. first of these was a 44-60
2 secondly along came the 44-77 with greater case capacity, named also 43 Spanish, note the specks, then it was loaded with 90 grains 
3. third a longer case was used to accomodate the want for greater case capacity, ie 90 grains so now there was an "official" 44-90 2 5/8
4. fourthly most rifles were made, at the time(1869) for govt. contracts, all over the world, so to accomodate, note name changes with the same specs.(or darn close)(companies were well aware of proprietary cartridges and if you owned a Remington they wanted you to shoot remington cartridges same with Sharps) Winchester and Marlin got into it in court big time...
Remington and Sharps worked somewhat together to create  long range rifles to compete at Creedmore for 1873. The 44-77 was developed somewhat before the Mod. 69 Sharps so all this may have origionated from Sharps. ( had to be developed before being adopted, 1868????) By 1874 the 44-90 was fully developed and used extensively.
I am just curious if this all was not of Russian invention and picked up by western countries...
Don  rustyrelx
PS its a great cartridge not to be overlooked by any others IMHO

  
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Re: Remington Rolling block Long Range
Reply #6 - Jun 17th, 2010 at 4:49pm
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Great looking Roller Don, and very rare. I wasn't aware there were so few around in the Longrange configuration. I also have a soft spot for Rem. civilian rolling blocks, and have a few stashed away too.
My favorite Roller is a 34" heavy barreled Roller with DST and a straight grip stock, chambered in .44-77 cal.
  

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