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Ruger #1 action
Mar 24th, 2010 at 10:04pm
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I need a Ruger #1 action for a project.
To get some kind of idea of what to pay, can anyone please tell me how to find out on Gunbroker what the rifle was actually sold for?
Thanks

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Reply #1 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 7:26pm
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   Hey Mr. Buggy Builder ,

     Brownells at one time sold new factory Ruger No.1 's as a "barreled action", but they are no longer doing that according to their latest catalog.

     Apparently, Brownells acquired "over runs" from Ruger Manuf. and the reason I say that is because the calibers where not the most popular.

     In any event, approximately two to two and a half years ago, it you were a "dealer" the barreled action could be purchase around the high $600 to low $700.

     The person who can give you better numbers than what I given above is our esteemed frequent talker, .   .   ."38 Cal" , who you may or may not know "had an "in" with Brownells"; he was on the inside.

     I will dig neat into my rats nest over the weekend and see if I can come up with the old Brownells catalog, in which case I will be equipped to quote chapter and verse on the Ruger No. 1 barrelled actions.

     Do they still have one or two kicking around, .   .   .   . ask 38 Cal when he shows up to help you !

     I hope you get what you need.

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Reply #2 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 7:29pm
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    Where is 38 Cal when you need him ? 

    Hey 38 Cal, can you hear me now ?  ?  ?

  
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Reply #3 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 7:44pm
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     38_Cal is around tonight, even on a Friday night !

     He's over in the "Reloading" area right now, so he'll be along shortly to help you with the prices Brownells charged for thier Ruger # 1 actions.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 8:15pm
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You have to have an account with gunbroker.  Then, on the search page you can select completed auctions.

No hassle opening an account there, I get about one email a month from them.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 8:23pm
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I'm going to a gunshow tommorow and a nice Ruger No. 1 at a good price is something I'm always looking for and never finding.  I will let you know what I see.

I just checked completed auctions on gunbroker, there appears to be a huge disconnect right now between what people are asking and what they are willing to pay.  Not many have sold but it looks like $550-700 is about the most anyone is willing to pay.
  
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Re: Ruger #1 action
Reply #6 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 8:33pm
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Yup, I had an in with them for twenty years until about 2 1/2 years ago when they decided that I was "excess"... Angry

Don't recall what they were selling for, but as I remember, the barreled actions at retail were only about $25 or so less than buying a complete rifle...all heart big deal on Ruger's part.  And even then, you could pick up a good used rifle on the open market for much less than dealer price on the barreled action.  Brownells dropped them from the catalog around three years ago, and the ones left were several years old, hence the oddball calibers on what was in stock.

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Reply #7 - Mar 27th, 2010 at 4:33am
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   Buggy Builder ;

  If you are interested in an entire rifle together with certain accessories, there is a 45-70 Govt Ruger/Lyman rifle being offered by one of our readers down in the "For Sale" classified advertisements of the Forum.

  I believe the owner is asking $2,600 for a limited edition.  It maybe something of interest to you.

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Reply #8 - Mar 27th, 2010 at 8:03pm
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Well, I'm back from the show and Ruger No. 1s were in short supply.  This was a big show, billed as the largest in the Southeast.  I saw three No. 1 rifles.   

An early red pad gun in .243, very nice wood like you see on some of those old ones, it looked to have been well used but well taken care of, $650.

A new looking 45-70 for $1,025.
A .416 Rigby (with 5 rounds of ammo) for $850.

There were a couple of No. 3 rifles there that I already regret not buying.  They both looked new, one in .223 for $450 and one in 30-40 Krag for $600.  Somebody had drilled a hole in the forend of the Krag for a sling swivel stud.  That was my excuse for not buying it.

Lots of intersting singleshots but nothing that was worth the asking price to me. A slew of Stevens, original Sharps, a Remington Hepburn, a pickup load of Trapdoor Springfields. Did not see a single Winchester singleshot, more nice old Winchester and Marlin leveractions than I've ever seen in one place.
  
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Re: Ruger #1 action
Reply #9 - Mar 27th, 2010 at 9:00pm
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That No. 3 at $450 would be the basis for a good Schuetzen rifle...I used one to build a .308"-32/20.  Speedlock Moulds, Ltd., hammer and a Kepplinger set trigger, barrel from Dan Pedersen at cutrifle.com, and my own wood.  You probably won't find a strong action any cheaper...

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Reply #10 - Mar 27th, 2010 at 9:10pm
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+1 to 38_Cal.  That price on the .223 Number 3 would correspond to the price of just about any other action alone.  JMHO, but that's the view from where I sit.

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Reply #11 - Mar 28th, 2010 at 9:01am
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    TO:   Mr. Buggy Builder

     FROM:   Creedmoormatch

   The question still remains ;   "What are you willing to pay ? "

   If your budget is $ 450. , then your project will remain in the planning stage for some time to come, in this person's humble opinion.

   I think the better approach is to go to the bank , get cash money in hand and go out and bargain in ernest for what you want .    Wink

   Realistically, it is not what someone else paid, that's retrospect, it's what a willing buyer will pay and a willing seller will accept under present conditions, that counts.

RE: Economics 101        Smiley      Smiley

    C.M.M.
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Reply #12 - Mar 28th, 2010 at 10:10am
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       Realistically, it is not what someone else paid, that's retrospect, it's what a willing buyer will pay and a willing seller will accept under present conditions, that counts.

RE: Economics 101        Smiley      Smiley

    C.M.M.


I certainly agree in theory but in real life theory can come up short.  Is a willing seller that one who has a price and figures he will get it sooner or later or the seller who needs the money to pay the mortgage or has his eye on another play pretty?  Is a willing buyer a guy who is patient and figures he will find a "deal" one day or the man who wants what he wants and don't care what it costs?

Those of us who are poor, cheap or just frugal may not understand the mindset of those who see something they want, have the cash to pay, and don't really care what it costs.  I think this is the buyer that a whole lot of the sellers at gunshows and the online auction sites are looking for.

As I walked around the show yesterday I saw at least a hundred rifles that I would have liked to own.  There was not a single rifle at the show that I couldn't have written a check for and not really missed the money.  I didn't see anything though that I thought would give me as much satisfacton as the asking price in cash money in my bank account.

Except, I am seriously sad that I didn't buy that $450 Ruger.  It's a two hour drive up there and I would probably head that way if my wife was home to go with me.
  
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Re: Ruger #1 action
Reply #13 - Mar 28th, 2010 at 4:51pm
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Two (of many) principles common in the gun trade.

The fast nickle beats the slow dime.

SOMEONE will always be hurting for money and will deal. 

(I'm looking for a 6.5 Grendle if anyone has any leads...)
  

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Re: Ruger #1 action
Reply #14 - Mar 30th, 2010 at 2:39pm
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buggybuilder wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 10:04pm:
I need a Ruger #1 action for a project.
To get some kind of idea of what to pay, can anyone please tell me how to find out on Gunbroker what the rifle was actually sold for?
Thanks

buggybuilder


   TO:   BuggyBuilder ;

    The web site for Guns International, which may be accessed at (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) has a directory for available items.  If you scroll down to the heading " Ruger Rifles Single Shot ", you will find that 60 rifles, either No. 1's or No. 3's are available for you to purchase.

    If, as you say, you " need a Ruger #1 ", you will have found it among the 60 Rugers listed for sale there.

    Keep us posted on which one you purchase !

    Creedmoormatch
  
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