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Mar 14th, 2010 at 10:53am
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This week I got another  torn up journal . What can be done about this? I,m sure I,m not the only one who gets them. Could we have them put in an envlope?  Could we have an option? I would,nt mind a little extra cost.  Any other thoughts on this problem?     JB BOOKS
  
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Reply #1 - Mar 14th, 2010 at 11:02am
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File a report with the USPS.

Ever think of that??
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 14th, 2010 at 4:22pm
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My local post office gals must get enough fiber in their diets...mine came in just fine.  Seriously, the cost of bagging such a small number (relatively) of magazines could raise the costs to where we would have to see a fairly hefty price jump in membership fees.  Too many to do comfortably by hand, too few for setting up the automated machinery at the printer/mailing house.

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Reply #3 - Mar 14th, 2010 at 4:27pm
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My journal is perfect this delivery. I love the cover!   


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Reply #4 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:51pm
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I complained to my postmaster about a battered copy I got, and he gave me a book of stamps in compensation, and more importantly no more damaged gun magazines.  Now if I could just get the ones that come to my house to be on time and in good shape...  Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 4:38pm
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Seems like this comes up every so often.  When you mail out 2000 of ANYTHING bigger than a standard sized envelope you are going to get a few damaged ones, simply because of the automated sorting and processing equipment.  even if it is put in an envelope or a plastic sleeve it happens.

One of the aviation magazines I subscribe to went to the plastic sleeve recently ---it a much larger and very well funded publication with a lot of expensive ads---and my most recent copy came all gnawed up.

I KNOW that the past few Journal editors have periodically reviewed this  problem and the costs for an organization/publication of our size to go to a sleeve or envelope are prohibitive without a price/dues increase that would in and of itself cause membership reductions. Not everyone can or would be willing to pay the added costs

I assume that an occasionally damaged piece of mail is about par.  Now if there is a provable pattern of damaged periodicals being delivered to you, especially of they are ''topically related"--ie a pattern of gun or hunting magazines being damaged, but not others; run -- don't walk --to the Postal Inspection service.  If you are having a problem with other unrelated magazines being damaged take it up with the local or regional postmaster--a sorting machine may be out of whack.

if its greasy fingerprints, coffee stains, or fried chicken drippn' marks better buy your local carrier his own subscription.

  

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Reply #6 - Mar 16th, 2010 at 7:44am
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I  think it would help if the magazine had a tab or tape  put on to keep it  closed.  Gun Report uses a plastic wraper and that works well.  Something needs to be done about this. JB
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 16th, 2010 at 8:24am
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When I get a report of that Journal is damaged I forward it to Keith Foster and he will send out replacements. There are a couple in every issue that arrive damaged. every once in a while there is an uptick in damaged issues I have asked on several occasions if the problem has become prevelent unough to go to a different shipping system i.e. sticky tabs or a bag. The answer is that the cost of doing either far outweighs the cost of mailing out a few replacements. If your journal is comming damaged you need to let us know, the crystal ball app on my phone is not working. If this is a bigger problem than we think it may be worth the cost to find another way to ship. 
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Reply #8 - Mar 16th, 2010 at 8:27am
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JB  Thank You that is a very good suggestion that is well worth looking into.  I don;t know if that has been evaluated.  I know we've looked into envelopes, jackets,  different mailing classifications, etc in the past and found that none were practical.

  I do get journals and catalogues etc that have a small clear sticker over the fly edge to keep it together.  It does not work 100 percent but might be an improvement
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:15am
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I have the printer running an estimate on what it will cost for some different mailing options. They offer a plain envelop or a poly wrapper. They do not offer the stickers, being in Wisconsin they have a hard time finding illegal immigrants to put the stickers on. Seriously in either case I would drop the wrapper and move the information on the inside of the wrapper to the magazine. When I get the costs I can take them to the board and they can decide if this fix is feasible and if a dues increase is necessary to sustain the Journal's new costs.  It has been over 25 years since the last dues increase and nothing has gotten cheaper. 

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Reply #10 - Mar 16th, 2010 at 10:18am
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Like everyone else I don,t want to see cost go up. But sometimes little common sense solutions can help.         JB
  
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