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Stevens 417 1/2
Mar 12th, 2010 at 1:28pm
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There is a modified 417 1/2 on gunbroker, it looks as though the barrel was set back in order to rechamber in .22 LR. I believe that is the reason it's missing the 2 rear scope block holes and if the forearm was removed there most likely are 2 extra holes for attaching forearm. One additional hole on left side frame has me puzzled. A real shame it has been modified, although should be a great small game rifle.
  
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Re: Stevens 417 1/2
Reply #1 - Mar 12th, 2010 at 2:15pm
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I think the rifle is a Stevens 418 1/2, not a 417 1/2.  A 417 1/2 would have a rear barrel dovetail slot for a folding leaf sight and a Lyman No. 144 tang sight, and would probably have a different lever.  Your assessment of the barrel being set back is most likely right.  The barrel length is consistent with a 26-inch barrel being shortened by 1 1/4 inches, which is also enough to eliminate the holes for the rear scope block.  The extra hole in the frame is indeed a puzzler.
  
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Re: Stevens 417 1/2
Reply #2 - Mar 12th, 2010 at 2:52pm
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It's probably a 414, which would account for the extra hole. Does it have a pistol grip or straight grip stock ?      ...MIKE...
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 12th, 2010 at 4:23pm
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Re: Stevens 417 1/2
Reply #4 - Mar 12th, 2010 at 8:17pm
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I was thinking 417 1/2 also. Need to take a look at mine when I get back home tomorrow night. Also confused about the chambering. Barrel says .22 WRF which I think was an option but he says .22 LR chambers and shoots accurately. The barrel being cut off and set back to rechamber to .22 LR would explain that. That would make the bore slightly oversized for the LR as I recall. It is also a shame somone put oversized plugs where the sling swivels went.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 13th, 2010 at 1:43pm
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dennismc, Now that I see it,,, definately 418.   ...MIKE...
  
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Re: Stevens 417 1/2
Reply #6 - Mar 13th, 2010 at 9:41pm
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418 or 418 1/2. No idea where I came up with 417 1/2. Brain fade. Would be simple matter to rechamber back to .22 WRF so chambering at least match the barrel stamping. Could also go with .22 WFM and use .22 WRF also.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 10:03am
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Yes, it is a 418 1/2, did not look at all the pictures showing the right side of frame. The early catalogs show the 417 also having that style of lever. Maybe I should study all pictures before opening my mouth.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 9:03pm
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Sorry, haven't been around in a while
Looks like my gun but judging by the rear sight I'd say it was a 418 1/2 at one time (Lyman 2A rear sight but missing the disk) but the front looks like the Lyman 17A HI that came on the 417 and was an option on the both the 418's. The std. front sight on a 418 1/2 would have been a Lyman gold bead and the 418 std. front would have been that d_ _ _ _ d Lyman 104 ramp I'm still looking for on my gun

HOWEVER, I can tell you that the extra reciever hole is much like an extra hole in my gun that has a Lyman 48L receiver sight, which was also an option (that came on the 417)

So, I'd guess someone had a 418 1/2, added the Lyman 17A HI front and a Lyman 48L rear reciever sight, but then took off the 48L and put the rear Lyman 2A back on again.

Also, the 418 1/2 came in 22WRF, the 418 did not from the literature I have
  
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Re: Stevens 417 1/2
Reply #9 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 1:41pm
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Steve, I had a Lyman 48L, didn't like it as well as a Lyman 103 and it would not require extra holes. The 48L has 2 holes, vertical as does the 417 receiver which brings the question why yours has only one hole. Would be nice to know the reason, the only sight I know of with 1 hole required is a sight from a 414 but it sits in a slot.
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 9:39pm
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Toolmkr
It's been a while (a year or two) since I've had my my 48L apart let alone off the gun and I think that was only the second time ever that I've had it apart--I'll have to check again and see just how many holes are there holding it on, or if it is using one new hole and one pre-existing hole, or two new holes

I'll check tomorrow and get to you then--even take a pic or two

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Reply #11 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 10:48pm
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Toolmkr,
Checked my sight tonight

You're correct--mine does have 2 holes / screws holding it on (only took the slide off, not the whole sight)

Don't know what might have on the reciever with just one hole
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Re: Stevens 417 1/2
Reply #12 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 2:11pm
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On the subject of 417's, will anyone hazzard a guess as to what the extra screw holes on the right side of my 417 are for?.  Also the two holes on the left side I assume are for the sights being discussed. However they appear to be a different thread size??? Comments please.

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Re: Stevens 417 1/2
Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 7:27pm
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Never seen this one before. Does not look like anything like a sight was ever mounted there. Some sort of action modification? I don't have a  clue on this one. Anyone here have an idea?
  
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Re: Stevens 417 1/2
Reply #14 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 8:57pm
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Maybe the two holes on the right side were for mounting a little 5-round loading block like you see on Martini prone rifles sometimes??

Undecided


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