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Mar 7th, 2010 at 3:45pm
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Fooling with my camera before cleaning the CPA  38/55 yesterday. 

I ought to be embarrassed by it's appearance, it is a working target rifle though. I put it into service May of 1994 and shot several thousand rounds per year Black Powder out of that barrel for some time. Use dropped off when Paul built a 2nd pure Schuetzen for me, was used as loner rifle for a few years.

From the log book this Douglas barrel has almost 15,000 rounds through it and shoots as good as the day it was new. This star was from a 40 shot gong match &  sighters plus practice just under 100 rounds fired.  290 gr LBT Spritzer cast 1/25 lubed with SPG. 16  Grs of 4759.  Looking at this think I will give it a detail cleaning.

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Reply #1 - Mar 7th, 2010 at 7:23pm
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Ya, but even now, there's no "crusties" in the beginning  rifleing grooves. So unless it is a lot worse farther in, all I can say is "wow". Neat barrel Boats. 

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Reply #2 - Mar 7th, 2010 at 8:44pm
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Do you use the pinhead for all distances and size of targets?
  

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Reply #3 - Mar 7th, 2010 at 8:54pm
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Boats Boats Boats!  What a mess! You need to get that mess cleaned up.

Nice to see you're using a windguage on the front like they did back in the old days. Most shooters have to have a fancy shmansy Soule style on the rear.   

I'm still using an aperture insert. Ive done some practice with the pinhead though, and my scores are a wee bit lower but more consistent. I dont get the wide shots as often with the pinhead.   

         
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Westerner It has a Soule on the rear. I take base zero on the front and work the rear back and forth as conditions change. Both Mike Stevens one of the last he made before passing away. Dick the barrel is slick and smooth the whole way. Never been re-crowned.  I don't go to hard with the rod just enough to wipe it clean.

MES I am trying to figure out the best front sight. That rifle has carried the largest Aperture I can get for years.  First BPCS Silhouette then Schuetzen.

However this match is different.  NRA 500 meter rams hung from chains at 200 yards. 40 shots in 10 shot strings 3 or 4 shooters in rotation so no delay or going to spotter targets. Easy target, hard to shoot well.  It takes 32/40 to be even considered for first few places. As far as we know nobody has ever hit all 40.  Long standing match at Fairfax Rod and Gun our club just picked it up this fall.  Sorry to say at Fairfax  years ago it replaced the Schuetzen match.

I shot the match twice with the aperture even though you can't see any light around the steel.  Was looking through the Aperture and picking my spot on the animal through the hole. This Sat 3rd time shot the match with a flat head post. It worked OK but was not very precise.  I don't know if I am going to be able to see that pin head against a black painted ram.  One advantage is it should have the same zero as the aperture if I want to change match day. The flat top post strike is about 2 moa lower than the Arp's it's intended to shoot bottom of the bull hold.

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Reply #5 - Mar 7th, 2010 at 10:16pm
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Boats, get down to the office supply store and get some liquid paper typewriter correction fluid in different colors...white and yellow, florescent orange if available...and paint the bead with the stuff.  You should be able to get a good contrast against the black ram.   

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Reply #6 - Mar 7th, 2010 at 10:22pm
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38 thinking bout just that. Some guys shoot this match with Cowboy lever guns and many have the front sight painted.

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Reply #7 - Mar 7th, 2010 at 11:08pm
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I used to have a Ballard with windguage's at both ends. I changed the rear to an original sight and kept the front windguage. I figure less chance for me to get confused.  Soule sights were rare in the old days. 

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Reply #8 - Mar 9th, 2010 at 9:50am
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I went to a couple of gong matches at Abbotsford WI last year and could not imagine using a pinhead.  I use an aperture front sight. 
Targets are 15x22 inch offhand at 182 yards and 12 inch circle at 182 yards  X sticks.
All the following are X sticks
285 yards circles of 16” and 8”  
322 yards circles of 20”, 16”, and 8”
509 yards circles of 36” 24” 12” 

That 512 yards 12 inch circle looks like the dot at the end of this sentence through the aperture sight.  You have to shoot in the 30 plus range to place.  The winner last time hit 36. It wasn’t me. I shot a 30 and was 6th.
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 9th, 2010 at 7:14pm
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Mes

These are offhand at 200 yards.  From Memory the NRA 500 meter ram is about 40 inches wide and 20 inches high so at 200 it's 20 moa wide by 10 moa high.  My largest aperture does not come even close to enclosing it.  Misses are almost always low or high, it's so wide there is no excuse for missing windage  10 moa high is pretty big too but the indistinct amiming point makes it harder than a bullseye target

Couple of guys are holding bottom of the body with a flat top post and zeroed to throw the bullet high,  just like we were taught to do when learning to shoot bullseye targets.  Don't think any of them are winning though.  Lots of talk about what's best so far nobody has any clear idea of best front sight.  I shot exactly the same score with the flat top post center of mass as I did twice with the arpeture sight so it must not be too much of a handicap,

32 is in contention anything over pretty sure winner. Last match we had a 4 way tie for 2nd at 31 first was 32  Scores seem to be settling about that level.  I need to hit a few more to make things comfortable.

I have a cut out stencil of the ram and am going to paint it on a cardboard box for some test of that pinhead before I risk any money on April's match using it.

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Reply #10 - Mar 10th, 2010 at 3:09pm
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Sat the 6th I shot this match, what aw hoot, I'm afraid I'm hooked...
What a fine range it is...
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Reply #11 - Mar 10th, 2010 at 5:21pm
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Colo glad to have you, have to get out for Froggys Schuetzen match next not far from your house.  Gretna Va. it's the real thing ASSRA targets for score.

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