Set_Trigger,

  Did you shoot the postal matches?

<<<<I don't like the idea or recommendation by mes of going to the WSU to shoot as I read some of there stuff and they are bad mouthing the ASSRA as being unfriendly and having useless targets. S T >>>

    Heck it seems that everybody at one time or another has bad mouthed the ASSRA.  And you should not blame a particular organization for whatever a few posters do or say.

    If the indoor range I used had not been torn down to make room for a park in Fond du Lac, WI I would still be shooting the WSU Winter Postal League.

<<<<If It's because mes is so tied up with other things that he just does not have the time to take care of 20 or so shooters I understand
S T>>>>

    Yes it does take some time to set up and do all the necessary things.  It also does not help getting yelled at for not sending targets out in a timely fashion just because I took a three and a half week trip out west.

    This all started a few years ago with people on the ASSRA site asking for some postal matches.  I went to the BOD (I am not a member of the BOD no matter what it says when I post) and they said if you want to do it go ahead.  

   In 2007 I think it was 2007, I set up a bad set of rules for the matches and no one entered.  I then revised the rules and the last two years were the result.  They may still be bad rules.  I think the time limits are too long.  The centerrfire matches are a joke when it comes to returned targets. Perhaps it should be rim fire only.  Maybe it is too many shots per match although I shoot a couple of hundred rounds a week.

    So good or bad blame me.  Or give me some ideas on how to improve the matches

   " Heck it seems that everybody at one time or another has bad mouthed the ASSRA.  And you should not blame a particular organization for whatever a few posters do or say"

mes, it was not just what a poster said, it was an official of WSU, and that to me means he is a representative of WSU and as an official representing WSU as an organization he was stating there ideas and policy's. If this is not the case then WSU should get rid of him as he's not a good rep for WSU.
 
   "Yes it does take some time to set up and do all the necessary things.  It also does not help getting yelled at for not sending targets out in a timely fashion just because I took a three and a half week trip out west"
 
I'm sure it takes some time to organize everything, but I would think with an association as large as  ASSRA there should be at least a few with experience that could volunteer to help out. If I knew what was going on,  or if I knew what I was doing I would volunteer to help

   "In 2007 I think it was 2007, I set up a bad set of rules for the matches and no one entered.  I then revised the rules and the last two years were the result.  They may still be bad rules.  I think the time limits are too long.  The centerrfire matches are a joke when it comes to returned targets. Perhaps it should be rim fire only.  Maybe it is too many shots per match although I shoot a couple of hundred rounds a week"

I see nothing wrong with the rules, I have been told the rule book I have is current even though it's from the 1990's it was reprinted in 2002,  the rules are mostly clear as to what the Rifles have to be, what targets are to be shot at, the number of shots, the distance, etc. there has to be some other problem. I don't think the time limits are too long, the nice thing about them is that a member has most of the summer to shoot and can pick the day he wants to shoot, what can be better than that.

Jeff_Schultz wrote on Mar 4^th, 2010 at 9:18pm:


Jeff,
I have no reason  to make anything up, no reason at all.
This is what was said :

"Targets to be use are the ASSRA or WSU 6 bull, 50-ft target. The ASSRA is ""unfriendly"" and will not sell to nonmembers. The WSU will sell to anyone. Anyway, buy them from the WSU" 

Another one :
"Maybe the problem is the ASSRA target. I'm almost done with these, and I'll not miss them when they are gone" 

And there's more but I'm not going to waste my time looking for all the derogatory remarks made about ASSRA, I have better things to do.  I'm about done with this, it's getting to the point that it seems not many care about the shooting sports any longer.
S T

Let me explain why the Postal Matches are still in the Journal. It is not a newspaper it is a magazine. We have a lead time. Right now it is barely March and I am working on May / June. March April is just starting to be mailed out. If I get told something today there is no way on Gods green earth that I can get the changes in before May. This is the same thing that I go through with some match directors. Just because you gave me a score last week dosn't mean that it is in the Journal that you get in your mail today. 

40 Rod

Nothing negative, just my perspective

Won a postal one year, over one or two other guys. Nice certificate but looking at it I know there was little competition.   I was one of the members that had lobbied for rules that allowed shooters outside of organized matches to shoot, and ASSRA stepped up and made a set of rules we could use. If shooters shoot I don't think matches are a problem. If few shoot no reason to hold matches.  Hard to ask members to go to the trouble if there is a low turn out.

This year I am shooting CBA postal because of more competition with Single Shots, who knows why, but a lot of people shoot there matches.   Everybody has different goals, competition is the only reason I shoot or own Single Shots. CBA runs a very good postal program .I recommend it.   

How about we clarify the rest of ASSRA's postal program, are there going to be outdoor postals in 2010 ? If so will send in the entry.

Boats

   OK, OK,
I now see what I'm up against.
I'll try to be quite for the next 10 months of my membership. I and a few other friends joined to shoot, not everyone is close enough to EG or any other matches and thought the postal matches was a way for us to shoot with other members, did not know the matches were discontinued. 

Believe me, if I knew  how it was run I would be happy to volunteer my time. Will hang around till next year, and try to gain some experience. If the postal matches aren't completely done away with I will volunteer to do them. 
S T