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Reply #15 - Mar 30th, 2010 at 4:32am
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Sure would like to get a glimpse at the inside of one of their units. They have one that will do a hex shaped hole as well. 

Wonder if they will come out with one to do an octagon? 
With a tapered bit...   Wink
  
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Reply #16 - Mar 30th, 2010 at 5:01am
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Dont know about tapered octagon. Do now there are some smart people out there.

Found one unit with a price on it. It says no longer available so I'll assume it sold.

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Heres another for 550.00.   

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Reply #17 - Mar 30th, 2010 at 11:57am
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Have to put my two bits worth in based on one experience. I have a shaper, but after clearing most of the material for the breech block recess with an end mill you can clear the corners and the last few thousands using Harry's tool in less time than it takes to set up the shaper. If the tool is properly sharpened it puts very little strain on the quill. I was amazed at how well it works.

The real challenge is cutting the recess for the extractor. It would be difficult with a shaper, but with a special tool and Harry's method it works fairly well. Don't know how they make this cut for production except EDM. 
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Reply #18 - Mar 30th, 2010 at 5:29pm
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Joe,

Thanks for digging up those links. I printed copies of both pages and will run them over so he can figure out his price and we can settle up. Appreciate your help.

Chuckster,

Agree with your observations. Using the quill as Harry showed is a lot faster for doing one-offs. Where a shaper really comes into play is with a run of multiples that justifies set-up time, and where you're working with odd shaped cuts that you can't readily do any other way with standard off-the-shelf tooling. 

An EDM would be nice to have, and I've been looking for one of the small earlier units that sinks blind-hole recesses. Have to be careful not to deplete the shooting fund too deeply though. So many toys and so little time. Grin

Thanks to one and all for your help and input.

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Reply #19 - Mar 30th, 2010 at 7:20pm
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Chuckster wrote on Mar 30th, 2010 at 11:57am:
Have to put my two bits worth in based on one experience. I have a shaper, but after clearing most of the material for the breech block recess with an end mill you can clear the corners and the last few thousands using Harry's tool in less time than it takes to set up the shaper. If the tool is properly sharpened it puts very little strain on the quill. I was amazed at how well it works.

The real challenge is cutting the recess for the extractor. It would be difficult with a shaper, but with a special tool and Harry's method it works fairly well. Don't know how they make this cut for production except EDM. 
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When I used my quill to broach the corners out I made my own cutters from drill rod. I hardened them as best I could but had trouble with the cutting edges. If I had to do it again with the quill I'd get some hard tool steel for cutters.  As for the corners I'd use a small drill at the the four corners before milling or drilling the mortice. I used a long 1/2" endmill to remove the bulk of material. The radius in the corners had quite a bit of material to remove. 


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Reply #20 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 1:34pm
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I used a high speed lathe tool bit silver brazed to an arbor with a half lap joint. A similar lathe cut-off tool bit was used for the extractor. Stuck the tool bits tips in a potato when brazing.

Just a note: Deep small diameter holes tend to wander. I used a 3/8" drill in the corners.
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Reply #21 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 3:46pm
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Yep, I was thinking 1/4" drill in the corners.

              
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Reply #22 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 6:47pm
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With small dia drills, get the speed up and peck drill. 
For micro drilling, some use an air-spindle turning over 3000 rpm so the chips are pretty much dust.
  
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Reply #23 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 7:33pm
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Fellows if you shop around. You might find a clamp on fixture that clamps onto the mill Quill. That was designed for the tool and die makers and was referred to as Key way cutters. They came 2 ways 1 with a lever to put down and take light cuts. The other had gear you inserted into a collet than became power driven. And you could adjust the down stroke speed etc. and would use either a 3/8 or 1/2 inch HS square tool bit. Was special on mills like the Milwaukee 2D2 rotary head etc. But by using a adaptor ring (sleeve) you could use them on any size quill. See a complete power set up one on E Bay awhile bought  $76.00. Whitey
  
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Reply #24 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 10:36pm
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Back to the original inquiry about the Farrow action, I sure wish that somebody would get a Farrow action going again for sale. I have always wanted one in the worst way ! Steve Earle are you interested ?
  
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Reply #25 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 11:17pm
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Back to the original inquiry about the Farrow action, I sure wish that somebody would get a Farrow action going again for sale. I have always wanted one in the worst way ! Steve Earle are you interested ?


We may have wondered a bit off topic alright. But if you do find a  Farrow action and it needs the mortise cleaned up you know how to do it.  Wink

The two or three actions I've seen were perty nice. Wouldnt mind having one myself. 

I need a new truck worse though. I better not start up on that or the thread will go haywire again. Ford or Dodge. Oops, sorry. Flatbed one ton diesel extra cab. Dang!! Sorry.

I met a fellow in Poulsbo who had a farrow with a Joe Williams .38 barrel chambered in 38/55.  His ammo was pretty sorry looking stuff. I loaned him some of my ammo. He shot a ten shot group at 200 with globe and tang that measured about two inches. That was fixed ammo and straight BP!  

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Reply #26 - Mar 31st, 2010 at 11:32pm
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One really dosn't need the whole casting kit.  The frame and lever casting are the most important.  Everything else could be easly made up from flatstock and that back scratching, double loop de loop mainspring can be ( and should be ) replaced with a coil spring.

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Reply #27 - Apr 1st, 2010 at 12:27am
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As I said before. There are some of those kits around. And where was everybody when I had some and tried to sell them on this site. Smile
If someone will get busy and find Wes Stanley.?? Formely the agent and maybe partner.? I bet he has Several And will give you a Hint. He used to work at Tinker AFB. And would almost bet money he still does.
  
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Reply #28 - Apr 1st, 2010 at 1:32am
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I didnt see them for sale Whitey.  I would be interested a complete rifle only. I have too many projects on the burner as it is.  Got any trucks?

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Reply #29 - Apr 1st, 2010 at 1:41am
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Joe that was sometime ago. But a friend or our friend Ben. Ended up with them.
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