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Reply #15 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 7:51am
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Also who owned the rifle can be as important as who worked on it. A name shooter owning the gun can be a plus for collectors. 

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Reply #16 - Mar 21st, 2010 at 1:15pm
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boats wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 8:53pm:
 Ballards for the action alone don't bring the same prices as a Low Wall Winchester.

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One of the problems with the "action alone" selling for a decent price is the 4 variants of Ballard action. The straight grip cast action has very little use, relegated to either .22LR or .32 Long RF/CF. That makes it pretty undesireable from a builder's point of view. The same cast action in a PG frame has the same restrictions, but being a PG makes it highly desireable!
The forged frames in straight grip, or PG are highly desireable, and will get pretty big dollars either way, but especially in a forged PG action!
  

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Reply #17 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 11:05am
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So, marlin guy, I'd appreciate your reading on what these actions are worth today.  Cast straight grip, cast p.g. and both non engraved forged actions--- Grin
  

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Reply #18 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 4:20pm
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Modified/custom guns are not as easy to value as a factory gun. But, there is certainly a good market for them, especially guns built/modified by known gunsmiths. If someone just tells you it's worth less because it's been modified, that ain't necessarily so. My interest is in custom .22 Ballards by Pope Peterson, Neidner, CC Johnson, Eric Johnson, etc. As has been mentioned, you should seek out a reputable appraiser/dealer to get a realistic valuation. Asking your friends will not get you a realistic valuation. In terms of selling you really need a good valuation and then you need to reach the people/collectors who are interested and have the $$$$. I've gotten some good deals over the years because sellers really didn't know how to sell the guns. One big mistake was trying to  sell at a local match to people who weren't really interested and mostly didn't have or were unwilling to spend the $$$ that the gun was worth. I've sold several guns thru a dealer. This has worked out very well, he could get the $$$ that I couldn't (he has a very good reputation and can take the guns to multiple shows) and the consignment fee was very reasonable - I didn't have to deal with tire kickers and the $$$ is more than I could get trying to sell myself.
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Reply #19 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 5:17pm
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Westy do your ballards look like these??
  
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Reply #20 - Mar 4th, 2011 at 6:33pm
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or this one;
  
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Reply #21 - Mar 4th, 2011 at 6:51pm
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And what year was that taken, and I 'm guessing that was at Golden? I see that they are wearing shooting coats?
  
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Reply #22 - Mar 4th, 2011 at 8:53pm
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Bob, ASSRA rules allow them, ISSA rules do not.  I don't know when that change was made.

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Reply #23 - Mar 4th, 2011 at 10:08pm
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Bob,

The pic I posted was August and Jim Westergaard at the 1982 Coors match in Golden and was taken by Barry Darr. As I recall at that time, you had to use the same rifle for both bench and offhand, they posted and retrieved your targets for you, all scoring was leaded edge and no adjustable butt plates were allowed (some folks had to prove that their butt plate was fixed and couldn’t be moved) and as I recall, you could wear any ole jacket you liked and everybody did.
  
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Reply #24 - Mar 4th, 2011 at 10:59pm
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Coors shoot 1983 in the picture I posted it was Mark Westergaard on the left and Jim Westergaard on the right.I was thinking these are two of the rifles he wanted price estimates on.
I see Westy has not posted here for some months.
It was a fun shoot Schutzenbob except for each afernoons deluge, figured out why the curbs in town were two feet high!!
  
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Reply #25 - Mar 5th, 2011 at 12:56pm
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To pursue this topic a bit further, I bought (at auction) a #5 (Pacific) that is complete and looks original except for a replacement ramrod.  The downsides are two fold.  First, it is in .40-90 caliber, which is well nigh impossible to afford to shoot, and second, the barrel and fore end are numbered together, and everything from the receiver back shares a different number... the rifle is a "married" piece.  Would I be losing anything value-wise to have it rebarreled to something shootable and sell the barrel and fore end to a collector who would want/need them?  Studied opinions, please!

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Reply #26 - Mar 5th, 2011 at 1:10pm
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I would say that it would depend on the overall condition. If in just average well used (what ever that is) condition, I would rebarrel. If it looks little used, I'd keep Ballard parts on it. Or if reselling it is something you hold high, rebarrel and keep the old barrel for a potential buyer. The new barrel won't be hard to sell.

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Reply #27 - Mar 5th, 2011 at 1:22pm
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40-90 brass is easy just use 9.3X74R if the barrel is good. The 9.3 rim is a bit thin but if you epoxy a shim in the barrel rim recess the case will bulge a bit ahead of the rim and you will have brass that will work.
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Reply #28 - Mar 5th, 2011 at 6:24pm
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Its already been rebarreled and I uhhh mmm like the 40-90.. So I would be interested in buying the front half if the bore is good... Don
  
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Reply #29 - Mar 6th, 2011 at 7:47am
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rustyrelx wrote on Mar 5th, 2011 at 6:24pm:
Its already been rebarreled and I uhhh mmm like the 40-90.. So I would be interested in buying the front half if the bore is good... Don


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     The bore is good... not pristine, certainly, but good.  I have been stewing over what to do about this rifle ever since I got it about 4-5 years ago.  Should I make it more unoriginal, or should I keep it as is, etc.  Then the question of what caliber to use comes in as well.  I've still gotta stew and chew on it a while longer, but will keep you in mind if  the barrel comes off and is available... you've got first refusal.

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