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Westy Ex Member	Modified Ballards-value? Feb 8^th, 2010 at 9:07pm	Print Post
	My father has a collection of Ballards that have heavy barrels-32-40 Schuetzen, 25-20WCF or 22 long rifle, Action ser #5506,6309,6996,13064,24005, 35538. How do I find the value of these guns?


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peterson2520ss Full Member Offline Life member 82 Posts: 128 Location: Yakima, WA Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2009	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #1 - Feb 8^th, 2010 at 9:42pm	Print Post
	Pictures, Barrel makers, Model numbers these are some of the things that are needed to help value Ballard rifles. You can look in John Dutcher's book for some help on this. I only have one problem with John's book. That being two of the three places my name is in it he misspelled it. Det


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Westy Ex Member	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #2 - Feb 8^th, 2010 at 11:00pm	Print Post
	Ser 5506 has a V.Sigmon Cabool Mo. barrel, 25-20WCF,ser 35538 has a Niedner Rifle Corp Dowagiac, Mich 22 long rifle, The others- I can't find any letters or numbers on them. Tried to post pics, wouldn't go.


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Ballard6 Full Member Offline Posts: 177 Location: CORINTH Joined: Apr 5^th, 2008	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #3 - Feb 9^th, 2010 at 9:34am	Print Post
	Westy Have you tried to post photos on photobucket.com? This may allow you to refer to them from this forum. Would like to see them especially if you intend to sell any. Bob


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2238 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #4 - Feb 9^th, 2010 at 9:53pm	Print Post
	Westy.--Not an expert, by any means, but from what you listed I think you may be talking some serious money. If you are considering selling, I would get a knowledgeable appraiser to look at them (maybe more than one). Would cost you some money, but think it might be worth it. Chuck


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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2247 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #5 - Feb 9^th, 2010 at 11:11pm	Print Post
	Verl Sigman is a (semi) retired gunsmith and Schuetzen shooter. I believe that he's still in the Cabool, MO area. David

	David Kaiser Montezuma, IA
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peterson2520ss Full Member Offline Life member 82 Posts: 128 Location: Yakima, WA Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2009	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #6 - Feb 10^th, 2010 at 2:18am	Print Post
	The 25-20 maker i do not know. The Niedner could be a high dollar rifle. We need more information on it Pistol grip or straight grip stock, any idea as to the stock maker? engraved? Marlin was good on putting serial numbers or ballard parts barrels actions both pieces of wood and butt plates will have serial numbers. any more information would help get you some answers. Det


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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1864 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #7 - Feb 10^th, 2010 at 5:52am	Print Post
	PM sent, check your messages


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irish66 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 536 Location: newbraunfels Joined: Apr 7^th, 2007	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #8 - Feb 10^th, 2010 at 7:18am	Print Post
	westy, pm sent go read. irish


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frederick Ex Member	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #9 - Feb 10^th, 2010 at 6:46pm	Print Post
	RE: .25-20 SS gunsmithed by Verl Sigman. He has gunsmithed the winningest .25's. He really knows how to chamber and throat for that load. He is still in Cabool, MO.


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Westy Ex Member	Update on Westergaard Ballards Reply #10 - Mar 15^th, 2010 at 10:14pm	Print Post
	I have not been able to determine the value of the guns due to the numerous modifications. I have a couple of articles and pictures of CT Westergaard with a couple of his guns and we are trying to get better identification as we may have 1 or 2 of the guns. I have also discovered a medals board with about 20 medals he won from 1910 to 1029 including several King medals. I also have an autobiography. We have not decided if or when we might sell some of the guns. This has been quite a learning process and I appreciate everyone's input. Thank you, Lee Westergaard


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Ballard6 Full Member Offline Posts: 177 Location: CORINTH Joined: Apr 5^th, 2008	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #11 - Mar 16^th, 2010 at 7:12am	Print Post
	Lee PM sent Bob


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2847 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #12 - Mar 16^th, 2010 at 12:40pm	Print Post
	Lee, PM sent Waterman


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16302 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #13 - Mar 16^th, 2010 at 8:13pm	Print Post
	Part of the value of a modified Ballard is how it was done, who did the mods, and finally what Ballard model it originally was. This last point is even more important if it remains mostly original, with basically just a barrel change. If the mods were done to a low end Ballard model then the end result will be a low end modified Ballard, which is significantly less value. If the base gun was a higher end (more desireable) model, then the modified gun will usually have more value.

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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7575 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Modified Ballards-value? Reply #14 - Mar 17^th, 2010 at 8:53pm	Print Post
	I traded for a Ballard poorly modified by a name smallbore barrel maker to a small bore prone rifle once. Had it for sale at 600 bucks for a year or so before trading it off to a buddy for about 600 bucks worth of stuff. It was and is a great shooter, If the rifle does not look good nobody wants to buy it. Ballards for the action alone don't bring the same prices as a Low Wall Winchester. Boats


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