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Stevens 44 1/2 Peep Sight Maker?
Jan 27th, 2010 at 11:30am
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Have looked and asked to no avail as to who made this peep sight.  Even contacted Red River Sights believing it is a Parts Unknown - Nope! ...
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 Peep Sight Maker?
Reply #1 - Jan 27th, 2010 at 5:38pm
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Quality looks very much like Mike Stevens. He made top notch reprodutions. He has passed. His sights usually had a very clean stamped "S" somewhere out of sight. Usually on the underside of the base. Hope this helps. Regards, FITZ. Smiley
  

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Reply #2 - Jan 27th, 2010 at 6:19pm
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I would bet on it being one of Mike Stevens too.  He was developing a sight that was an original design, not a copy of any old sight when he passed away.   

Look for the "S"

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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 Peep Sight Maker?
Reply #3 - Jan 27th, 2010 at 6:24pm
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John Boy,

If you don't locate the "S" stamping that FITZ and Boats have mentioned, there is the possibility that someone rebuilt that Stevens #130 sight from parts, and machined some components to replace the missing pieces that couldn't be scrounged up.

As I'm sure you already know, the old sights get messed with a lot!! I always get a good chuckle when I see the Flea-bay auction pics showing early Lyman #1 & 2's that have had the joint/stem re-assembled into the base in reversed position.

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Reply #4 - Jan 27th, 2010 at 11:14pm
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Gents, thanks for your knowledge.  This sight does not have an 'S' anywhere, either on the sight or on the base.  The reason to determine who the maker was is because the staff tension spring is missing.  I'll be the 3rd owner of the sight and rifle.  The 1st owner is unknown and the 2nd owner said it was a Parts Unknown.  That's the reason for contacting Red River Sights.  The new owner of Red River, Sergio, on the phone said that maybe it was a 1st generation Parts Unknown.  So I took some pictures and sent them to him.  His reply was it's not a Parts Unknown

So my remaining option is to fabricate a tension spring and have a good time using it.  In the interim, follow up on BP's suggestion that it is possibly a Steven's 130.  I have a friend who has a tremendous reference library.  So maybe we can find a picture of one and go from there

Thanks again for your knowledge transfer!
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 27th, 2010 at 11:26pm
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Followup - lookie what I  found on a forum doing a search for a Stevens 130 sight ... aka Wind-Gauge Vernier Rear Sight! Grin  Sure does look like the one I have except for a different base (no notch on the end) and it would be the No. 120 with the slider windage
BP - Thanks for the lead and have to say ... all you gentleman are a store house of good knowledge!

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Reply #6 - Jan 28th, 2010 at 8:30am
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   The posted photo indicates that the base is an investment casting, which is indicated my the maroon color which happens over time when investment castings are blued.

   Also, are the threads metric sizes ?

   Investment cast parts with metric threads both indicate an Italian copy.

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Reply #7 - Jan 28th, 2010 at 8:55am
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My first model double trigger Tranter has some maroon parts and I am pretty sure that they are not investment castings!
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Reply #8 - Jan 28th, 2010 at 10:26am
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Many times parts made from cast iron ( Stevens used a lot of these parts ) will blue up with a maroon cast to them.  This usually will not show up with the older process of bluing but rather when reblued with the more modern process's such as Dulite or Oxanate #7.  Also if the part is lightly case hardened , it also will show this maroon cast to it, but there again, only with the more modern process's.  If these parts are rust blued they usually turn out with a nice deep blue or blackish color.
Note also that the eye piece locking plate has this maroon tinge as well.
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Reply #9 - Jan 28th, 2010 at 4:25pm
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Gents, the base is an investment casting.  The threads are not metric.  Both the ocular and the base screw are 10-32.
Candidly, my issue is not whether the sight is a repro or original, it's missing a tension part for the staff.  I don't believe the staff is locked in place by just screwing the base screw in tight. The bottom of the staff is round with 2 flat cuts, angled so the cuts come to a point that possibly would fit into some sort of a sliding bar to hold the staff in correct position when shooting
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 Peep Sight Maker?
Reply #10 - Jan 28th, 2010 at 6:33pm
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That sight looks like one I bought new about 20 years ago.  I believe
it was made by Mid America Restoration or something of that nature
my mind is a little fuzzy on the name but it sounds about right.
I know somebody out there has to remember the company.  They
made reproduction Steven sights.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 Peep Sight Maker?
Reply #11 - Jan 28th, 2010 at 6:39pm
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I believe that I have the same sight. It is a reproduction. It has the number 26 on it.  It is on the base , the aperture, and the vernier block. I bought it at the Kansas City, MO MO Valley Show may be 10 years ago. The detent is held by a 1" spring. It fits under the staff.and is a double S?? The staff when up sits in the valley. I will post a pic, but it is hard to get detail.  I will try to get detail and a better view tomorrow.
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Reply #12 - Jan 28th, 2010 at 6:41pm
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Here is the sight.
  

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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 Peep Sight Maker?
Reply #13 - Jan 28th, 2010 at 6:48pm
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Another view.
  

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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 Peep Sight Maker?
Reply #14 - Jan 28th, 2010 at 8:26pm
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You Guys Are Amazing!  Out of the parts drawers and in the matter of days, what it is and super pictures to boot.  Kurt, I really appreciate you taking the time to take and post your pictures - especially the 'S' shaped spring. Now I have to get to work and fabricate one.

My intent is to use this freebie sight for our 50 yd club gallery matches and the Schuetzen stock. I got it and a ton of other items with the purchase of the rifle.  CPA is sending me a Silhouette stock and I have several mid range verniers that I can put on it for shooting further out.

Again, thanks kindly to all for looking and your help!
  
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