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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4202 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: lead in bore Reply #15 - Jan 26^th, 2010 at 7:23am	Print Post
	This is not from personal experience, but from reading old sources and discussion with the late Charlie Dell who had used the technique... he referred to it as "blue ointment." The pharmacies used to prepare an ointment for social diseases... you rubbed it on the affected part(s) and it killed the pathogen. If your barrel is "infected" with lead fouling, you can also use it (according to the oldsters.) The ointment is made by combining anhydrous lanolin with elemental mercury and mixing it until it becomes a homogeneous paste. This is swabbed into the barrel and allowed to work, then wiped out with clean cloths and the barrel should be lead free. Follow up with normal cleaning process. Froggie


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stebbinsgr Ex Member	Re: lead in bore Reply #16 - Jan 26^th, 2010 at 7:46am	Print Post
	Froggie, With all the EPA regulations and other nonsense from our Nanny state government, let me know if you are able to obtain some of this magic barrel ointment. Then let me know if it works. Hoppes makes a Copper and Lead remover, has anyone every used it? I don't like using a brush in the barrel of my rifle (.32 40 Stevens-Pope) for fear of damaging the rifling.
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Set_Trigger Ex Member	Re: lead in bore Reply #17 - Jan 26^th, 2010 at 7:20pm	Print Post
	Fred, Something had to be wrong, it's hard to believe that the mercury treatment didn't work, I've never seen it fail. It always amazed me at how fast it worked, all I ever did was plug up the barrel, pour it in, let it set for 15 min., pour it out, push a patch through, and the bore would be super clean. I've never had it fail. What made the Charlie Dell "blue ointment" work was the mercury that was in it. What it does is dissolve the lead and it comes right out with only a patch. As to the EPA regulations and other nonsense, any of you old guys that have silver fillings in your teeth, ask your dentist what the filling is made of, it's more than just silver. I bet he will tell you silver and, guess what, "mercury", the mercury dissolves the silver into a past then the Doc fills the hole in your tooth that of course is in your mouth with the "mercury" and silver paste. Believe me If mercury will dissolve silver it will dissolve lead. S T


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joeb33050 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2613 Location: Marathon, FL Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: lead in bore Reply #18 - Feb 4^th, 2010 at 8:04am	Print Post
	Blue ointment was the treatment for "crabs", crab lice. I don't know what was in it aside from mercury, but I bought it in 1960 at the drug store, and it took lead out. Not as well as mercury. I bought 1/4 pound of mercury in a small glass bottle and took out lead quick and easy. I had it for years. The seller at a chemical supply business gave me a loooong lecture about the dangers and how to be safe. This also in 1960. joe b. Green_Frog wrote on Jan 26^th, 2010 at 7:23am: This is not from personal experience, but from reading old sources and discussion with the late Charlie Dell who had used the technique... he referred to it as "blue ointment." The pharmacies used to prepare an ointment for social diseases... you rubbed it on the affected part(s) and it killed the pathogen. If your barrel is "infected" with lead fouling, you can also use it (according to the oldsters.) The ointment is made by combining anhydrous lanolin with elemental mercury and mixing it until it becomes a homogeneous paste. This is swabbed into the barrel and allowed to work, then wiped out with clean cloths and the barrel should be lead free. Follow up with normal cleaning process. Froggie


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joeb33050 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2613 Location: Marathon, FL Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: lead in bore Reply #19 - Feb 4^th, 2010 at 8:16am	Print Post
	"Lead Away" gun cleaning patches by Kleen Bore will take the lead out and not cause any problems with leading later. TIGHT PATCH Kroil on a tight patch, so it squeaks, will take the lead out, but you MUST lube the bore before shooting lead bullets or the clean bore WILL lead. TOO CLEAN. westerner wrote on Jan 25^th, 2010 at 6:04pm: I had some leading in hot weather in my very first Schutzen rifle. Someone gave me a piece of forcing cone cleaning cloth. A tacky yellow abrasive cloth. It got the lead out. The barrel leaded again, I used the cloth again. The more I used the cloth the faster the barrel leaded. When I moved from Colorado to the PNW the barrel continued to lead in about five shots in cool weather. I tried everything to get that barrel to stop leading. I sent the rifle off for a new barrel, same maker. It does not lead and I have never used that cloth again. Bev Pinny had a Smith barreled Miller rifle that shot 250s pretty regular. It was the most accurate rifle shooter combo in the PNW and Canada. One day at a match I heard him say that the barrel was leading and he couldnt get it to stop. During the conversation he mentioned he had been using forcing cone cleaning cloth. I told him about my experience but he told me I was full of ***t. I shut up. The next season he had replaced the barrel because it wouldnt stop leading no matter what he tried. My guess is the cloth has a carborundum dust or diamond dust impregnated in the cloth. Does it come off the cloth and imbed in the steel? I dont know. I do know for sure that I will never use it ever. I wont even have it in my shop should I mistakenly push it through a barrel. 3 or 4 ot steel wool on a tight patch works for me. More of my two cents. Joe.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12560 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: lead in bore Reply #20 - Feb 4^th, 2010 at 8:47am	Print Post
	I tried EVERYTHING including lubing the bore after using the forcing cone cleaning cloth. My Dad owns that barrel now and it still leads bad. I never lube the bore before the first shot on any rifle. All I do is push a clean patch through once and very seldom get lead. Steel wool works the very best every time and it will not hurt the bore or embed in the steel. Joe.

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joeb33050 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2613 Location: Marathon, FL Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: lead in bore Reply #21 - Feb 4^th, 2010 at 10:22am	Print Post
	I can lead the barrel on any of ~5 rifles after cleaning with Kroil, not lubing, and shooting. Same barrel lubed or sans Kroil cleaning won't lead. I MUST lube the barrel after serious Kroil cleaning, before shooting. 3 0 = 000 steel wool works fine, but gives many of us the willies. A ctg or 2 with a dab of Unique, Cream of Wheat, a bullet; cleans the bore of all lead. Maybe doesn't wear the bore. A plastic wad, LDPE or ??, will keep an undersized bullet from leading. The best solution is to use a big enough bullet so the gun doesn't lead. joe b. westerner wrote on Feb 4^th, 2010 at 8:47am: I tried EVERYTHING including lubing the bore after using the forcing cone cleaning cloth. My Dad owns that barrel now and it still leads bad. I never lube the bore before the first shot on any rifle. All I do is push a clean patch through once and very seldom get lead. Steel wool works the very best every time and it will not hurt the bore or embed in the steel. Joe.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12560 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: lead in bore Reply #22 - Feb 4^th, 2010 at 11:38am	Print Post
	I been using Hoppes forever. I have to be careful I dont have any on me when I'm around my xwife. Drives her crazy. She gets that weird look in her eye. When I was working in Kentucky a few years ago I learned first hand what humidity and rifles is all about. It was one heck of a battle. I can understand why some use or try everything out there to protect there rifles. Joe.

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tim_s Oldtimer Offline Posts: 840 Location: 13066 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2006	Re: lead in bore Reply #23 - Feb 4^th, 2010 at 11:48am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Feb 4^th, 2010 at 8:47am: I tried EVERYTHING including lubing the bore after using the forcing cone cleaning cloth. My Dad owns that barrel now and it still leads bad. I never lube the bore before the first shot on any rifle. All I do is push a clean patch through once and very seldom get lead. Steel wool works the very best every time and it will not hurt the bore or embed in the steel. Joe.

	“ I don’t have to be faster than the bear, I just have to be faster than you”
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tim_s Oldtimer Offline Posts: 840 Location: 13066 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2006	Re: lead in bore Reply #24 - Feb 4^th, 2010 at 11:50am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Feb 4^th, 2010 at 8:47am: I tried EVERYTHING including lubing the bore after using the forcing cone cleaning cloth. My Dad owns that barrel now and it still leads bad. I never lube the bore before the first shot on any rifle. All I do is push a clean patch through once and very seldom get lead. Steel wool works the very best every time and it will not hurt the bore or embed in the steel. Joe. Steel of any kind, in any form, will harm a barrel. This has been proven time and again. You know those nice sharp lands you want in a good barrel? They will have their edges rounded off at a minimum.

	“ I don’t have to be faster than the bear, I just have to be faster than you”
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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Online Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2342 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: lead in bore Reply #25 - Feb 4^th, 2010 at 11:53am	Print Post
	Most of us still remember “Mercurachrome,” it was a mercury-bromine compound used as a topical disinfectant of the skin and wounds. Many of us had this red liquid painted on us when we were young for skinned knees and small cuts. It has been outlawed in the US for years, although non-mercury types are still available. My father always kept a bottle of it in his shooting kit for removing lead from his 22 barrel. Bob


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12560 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: lead in bore Reply #26 - Feb 4^th, 2010 at 11:59am	Print Post
	Cleaning the bore and abuse wear a barrel out faster than shooting lead bullets through it. Everything in moderation and it'll outlast all of us. The thought of having Mom putting Mercurachrome on me kept me from getting a lot of scrapes. Joe.

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