Welcome, Guest. Please
Login
or
Register
ASSRA Home
Board Index
Help
Search
Login
Register
ASSRA Forum
›
General
›
General Discussion
› lead in bore
(Moderator Group: Moderator)
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
Pages:
[1]
2
Send Topic
Print
lead in bore (Read 13474 times)
wayne r
Ex Member
lead in bore
Jan 24
th
, 2010 at 8:33am
Print Post
Am new to shooting old guns!
Need to know how to tell if a bore has lead deposits and how to safely remove it. I have a Win. low wall in 25-20 W.C.F.,barrel was relined
at some point.
It shoots better than my 60+ year old eyes can see,but worry about
cleaning the bore. Probably a fairly soft steel used in relining!
Wayne r
IP Logged
QuestionableMaynard8130
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Posts: 4144
Location: Benton Harbor MI
Joined: Apr 17
th
, 2004
Re: lead in bore
Reply #1 -
Jan 24
th
, 2010 at 10:29am
Print Post
I keep one of those kind of waxy-yellow lead-deposit-wipe-away cloths in my kit. Cutting it into cleaning patches and running it through with a tight jag really cleans the bore and doesn't seem to harm anything.
I don't remember the name of the wiping cloth, but they used to be common in the gunshops they were real common for cleanup when shooting lead bullets with revolvers. I bought a couple years ago and kept them sealed in plastic bags.
someone else may know the exact name and a current source
btw, the liner may actually be harder steel than the original barrel was
sacred cows make the best burger
IP Logged
Mizura
Participating Member
Offline
Posts: 43
Location: NE Missouri
Joined: Feb 25
th
, 2009
Re: lead in bore
Reply #2 -
Jan 24
th
, 2010 at 11:07am
Print Post
I use a product known as,
Lyman Turbo Lead-free Cloth. I cut it in squares to fit the barrel.
Lyman product # 7631350, sells for $5-6.
J&M Supply has them in stock.
Hope this is what you're looking for.
Jim
two wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do
IP Logged
wayne r
Ex Member
Re: lead in bore
Reply #3 -
Jan 24
th
, 2010 at 11:53am
Print Post
Thanks I'll give it a try!
Wayne r
IP Logged
tim_s
Oldtimer
Offline
Posts: 840
Location: 13066
Joined: Oct 11
th
, 2006
Re: lead in bore
Reply #4 -
Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 11:08am
Print Post
You will find, with all due respect, that if you have any degree of really imbedded lead, the cloths don't work well. There was a review somewhere involving a good series of borescope photos. Two simple effective methods that are quite productive are to use a nylon brush with JB or IOSSO both are non imbedding and use a mild chemical/abrasive methodology, particulary for deposits in the throat.
Cleaning and maintainance of any barrel really gets interesting when you have the benefit of a scope to actually quantify what's going on in there IMHO.
«
Last Edit: Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 9:26pm by tim_s
»
“ I don’t have to be faster than the bear, I just have to be faster than you”
IP Logged
Set_Trigger
Ex Member
Re: lead in bore
Reply #5 -
Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 1:54pm
Print Post
In the old days the Lewis Lead Remover did a very good job.
But if you want to get your barrel super clean and really get all the lead out use mercury, if you can find any.
S T
«
Last Edit: Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 11:49pm by
»
IP Logged
toolmkr
Full Member
Offline
Posts: 130
Joined: Aug 11
th
, 2009
Re: lead in bore
Reply #6 -
Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 4:48pm
Print Post
I was wondering when someone was going to suggest mercury, no idea where it can be purchased or if anyone would be politically correct owning same. OH forgot site I'm on, please forgive.
IP Logged
Cat_Whisperer
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
No 1, 9.3x74R
Posts: 3991
Location: Mountains of Virginia
Joined: Apr 17
th
, 2004
Re: lead in bore
Reply #7 -
Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 4:50pm
Print Post
toolmkr wrote
on Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 4:48pm:
I was wondering when someone was going to suggest mercury, no idea where it can be purchased or if anyone would be politically correct owning same. OH forgot site I'm on, please forgive.
You can get a LITTLE bit from EACH flourescent bulb. They should be banned! All the bad ones going straight into the landfill. At least lead doesn't get into the water table.
Cat Whisperer (trk)
Chief of Smoke
Pulaski Coehorn Works and Skunk Works
Drafted May 1970, Retired Maj. U.S.Army
assra #9885
WWW
IP Logged
QuestionableMaynard8130
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Posts: 4144
Location: Benton Harbor MI
Joined: Apr 17
th
, 2004
Re: lead in bore
Reply #8 -
Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 6:03pm
Print Post
then there are the old honeywell thermostats in most houses more than 20 years old. two or three of then would yield enough to clean most bores if handled properly and carefully.
at one time I had a pint bottle full of it on the shelf in my shop
but I was a good boy and surrendered it to a toxic disposal agency. Now I wish I had held some back
sacred cows make the best burger
IP Logged
westerner
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
deleted posts and threads
record holder.
Posts: 12560
Location: Why, out West of course
Joined: May 29
th
, 2006
Re: lead in bore
Reply #9 -
Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 6:04pm
Print Post
I had some leading in hot weather in my very first Schutzen rifle. Someone gave me a piece of forcing cone cleaning cloth. A tacky yellow abrasive cloth. It got the lead out. The barrel leaded again, I used the cloth again. The more I used the cloth the faster the barrel leaded. When I moved from Colorado to the PNW the barrel continued to lead in about five shots in cool weather. I tried everything to get that barrel to stop leading. I sent the rifle off for a new barrel, same maker. It does not lead and I have never used that cloth again.
Bev Pinny had a Smith barreled Miller rifle that shot 250s pretty regular. It was the most accurate rifle shooter combo in the PNW and Canada. One day at a match I heard him say that the barrel was leading and he couldnt get it to stop. During the conversation he mentioned he had been using forcing cone cleaning cloth. I told him about my experience but he told me I was full of ***t. I shut up.
The next season he had replaced the barrel because it wouldnt stop leading no matter what he tried.
My guess is the cloth has a carborundum dust or diamond dust impregnated in the cloth. Does it come off the cloth and imbed in the steel? I dont know. I do know for sure that I will never use it ever. I wont even have it in my shop should I mistakenly push it through a barrel.
3 or 4 ot steel wool on a tight patch works for me.
More of my two cents.
Joe.
A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
IP Logged
drc
Full Member
Offline
Posts: 174
Location: Norton
Joined: Mar 5
th
, 2005
Re: lead in bore
Reply #10 -
Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 7:22pm
Print Post
I use pure gum turpentine. Has to be the real stuff, not synthetic. A lot of the BPCR folks use turpentine to get the lead out of their bores. I use a crown protector and push a very tight patch in from the muzzle and since it is going against the flow, seems to help lift it out.
I would recommend having someone control the rifle so you can control the cleaning rod so you don't damage the crown.
The first loose patch is soaked, and let is sit a couple seconds. Then tight patches wet with the turpentine.
This method won't hurt your rifling. I use it to clean my Shilohs and CPA Stevens BPCR rifles.
I have seen extreme lead mines be cleaned up by driving a patch through from the breech end utilizing a large diameter brass cleaning rod. One rifle had slivers come out. Sometimes in hot dry weather, when folks shoot long strings of shots in a day long competition, lube fails and bad leading occurs.
Dave
IP Logged
westerner
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
deleted posts and threads
record holder.
Posts: 12560
Location: Why, out West of course
Joined: May 29
th
, 2006
Re: lead in bore
Reply #11 -
Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 7:42pm
Print Post
I agree Dave. A wet patch of #9 let it sit for a while and most if not all the lead comes out with a tight patch.
Joe.
A blind squirrel runs into a tree every once in a while.
IP Logged
QuestionableMaynard8130
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Posts: 4144
Location: Benton Harbor MI
Joined: Apr 17
th
, 2004
Re: lead in bore
Reply #12 -
Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 9:03pm
Print Post
ever use the Lewis Lead Remover bronze/brass screen patch system on a rifle rod. I had an old one from my IHMSSA days and used it a couple times on my 45-70 browning sporter when I got it clogged up.
ran the rod down the bore attached the plug and screen at the chamber end and pulled it back out.
seems like the bronze screen wouldn't hurt the bore--to me at least. wonder if they made it in smaller calibres?
sacred cows make the best burger
IP Logged
38_Cal
Frequent Elocutionist
Offline
Posts: 2257
Location: Montezuma, Iowa
Joined: Apr 27
th
, 2005
Re: lead in bore
Reply #13 -
Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 10:51pm
Print Post
QuestionableMaynard8130 wrote
on Jan 25
th
, 2010 at 9:03pm:
ever use the Lewis Lead Remover bronze/brass screen patch system on a rifle rod. I had an old one from my IHMSSA days and used it a couple times on my 45-70 browning sporter when I got it clogged up.
ran the rod down the bore attached the plug and screen at the chamber end and pulled it back out.
seems like the bronze screen wouldn't hurt the bore--to me at least. wonder if they made it in smaller calibres?
It's available in 30/32 caliber...Brownells probably won't admit it, but that was one of my suggestions, mainly for the Cowboy Action crowd.
David
David Kaiser
Montezuma, IA
IP Logged
Fred Boulton
Oldtimer
Offline
Posts: 801
Joined: Jan 6
th
, 2007
Re: lead in bore
Reply #14 -
Jan 26
th
, 2010 at 6:22am
Print Post
I have a small stone jar which contains one pound of mercury.
Used it as a lead remover --or tried to--on several occasions. It does not work. I know that it should do and on one occasion I left a plugged barrel with mercury in it for a month. No effect.
Wire brushes don't work.
Leaving a patch soaked in no9 or similar for a day and then cleaning with a tight patch works. I have used the lead remover cloths--they work, but the soak in barrel cleaner works as well.
After the tight patch cleaner, a brisk clean with Iosso or similar mild abrasive compounds will remove the last traces of lead.Fred
IP Logged
Pages:
[1]
2
Send Topic
Print
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
Forum Jump »
Board Index
» 10 most recent Posts
» 10 most recent Topics
General
Announcements
General Discussion ««
Single Shot Rifles
Reloading the Single Shot Rifle
Gunsmithing Single Shot Rifles
Collecting Single Shot Rifles
Hunting with Single Shot Rifles
Scopes and Sights
Rifle Photos
ASSRA Match Scores
For Sale/Trade
Support and Feedback
ASSRA.COM Feedback and Suggestions
Forum Help
Membership Support
« Board Index
‹ Board
ASSRA Forum
» Powered by
YaBB 2.6.12
!
YaBB Forum Software
© 2000-2026. All Rights Reserved.
Page completed in 1.2185 seconds.