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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Sell the sight or buy a Favorite to go with it? Reply #15 - Jan 2^nd, 2010 at 11:33pm	Print Post
	No grove under the butplate. Think it was $600 shipped. I figured the sight was worth $300+ so I thought the deal was ok even though the metal was not the best. Case on frame was not bad but the exterior of the barrel had some issues.


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418Steve Ex Member	Re: Sell the sight or buy a Favorite to go with it? Reply #16 - Jan 3^rd, 2010 at 8:29am	Print Post
	Mmmmm--looks like it might have been a different gun than the one I remember Good luck with it, not many around for sure!


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418Steve Ex Member	Picture needed of Lyman 104 front sight Reply #17 - Jan 8^th, 2010 at 12:41pm	Print Post
	Sorry to beat a dead horse on this guys, but I could use a pic of this front sight if anyone has a Stevens 418 Walnut Hill Jr. like mine. I know its a patridge style, but can't find any pics of it in any reference books. It's in the Stevens literature I have , but the pics of the front of the barrel and sight are fuzzy. It looks like it is low at the front near the muzzle and slopes up towards the back, but don't know if it is a straight line or a curved arch slope. I also don't know if it was ever marked "Lyman" or "104" so trying to descibe it or have a pic will help when contacting a few sight collectors. Thanks in advance, Steve


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toolmkr Full Member Offline Posts: 130 Joined: Aug 11^th, 2009	Re: Sell the sight or buy a Favorite to go with it? Reply #18 - Jan 8^th, 2010 at 1:30pm	Print Post
	I've seen 3 different 418's and none of them had anything other than a globe sight. I believe any one who used them for target shooting would change the front sight from the orginal. I don't think I've ever seen a pic. of a 104. Hope someone will supply a picture for us. toolmkr


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418Steve Ex Member	Re: Sell the sight or buy a Favorite to go with it? Reply #19 - Jan 8^th, 2010 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	Thanks Toolmkr--I agree--that's why mine got changed out for sure Any pics or clear copies of any literature will help a lot Not ready to give up yet--on a mission I guess! Thanks everyone if you can help


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dennismc Junior Member Offline Posts: 60 Location: Eureka, CA Joined: Jan 17^th, 2008	Re: Sell the sight or buy a Favorite to go with it? Reply #20 - Jan 8^th, 2010 at 4:11pm	Print Post
	Steve, Something in the "for what it's worth" category... I own several Stevens 418 rifles in 22 LR caliber and they came to me with a variety of sights. Three of them came with a Lyman No. 3 gold bead front sight; two of those had a Lyman No. 144 tang sight and the other a Lyman No. 2A tang sight. Another came with a Lyman No. 3 ivory bead front and No. 2A tang sight. Yet another came with a King No. 65 reflector bead front sight. From what I have seen, the Lyman gold bead front sight was the most popular factory option. I am not sure there is such a thing as a Lyman No. 104...at least I have never seen one mentioned anywhere but here. Stroebel's sight book mentions a "Stevens No. 104 Patridge Front Sight" as being standard for the Stevens 418 target rifles, but all the Stevens catalogs I have access to call it a "Patridge-type" sight, without specifying a number. The only way I know to differentiate between the 418 and 418 1/2 are the sights and the caliber. Since you already have somewhat of an oddball rifle with both a receiver sight and a tang sight (which is not "right" for a Stevens 418), if I were you, I would just leave the Lyman No. 17 on the front and enjoy shooting it. Dennis


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toolmkr Full Member Offline Posts: 130 Joined: Aug 11^th, 2009	Re: Sell the sight or buy a Favorite to go with it? Reply #21 - Jan 8^th, 2010 at 4:25pm	Print Post
	The 418 1/2 is std. with Lyman 1A and Lyman gold bead front, any 418 could pass for a 418 1/2 by changing sights (418 1/2 appears to be rare, more so than the 418, but???) The only sure way to know a 418 1/2 is if it's in .22WRF or .25 Stevens. My opinion only. toolmkr


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418Steve Ex Member	Re: Sell the sight or buy a Favorite to go with it? Reply #22 - Jan 8^th, 2010 at 4:46pm	Print Post
	Thanks, you confirmed what I thought. Mine is 22LR so could have been either, but I have the Lyman 144 rear which I like with the click adj. for elev. and windage, so thought I'd try and find the 104 front. It's even possible it was special ordered with the 17A HI front it h!as (in addition to the 48L rear), but may never know for sure as Stevens records seem to be gone, and don't know if I can track it down thru the club it was bought through. Sorry if I'm getting long winded on this---"on a mission" on this I guess and didn't mean to write a novel, but I've found you never know what turns up for info! Thanks--always willing to listen


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Sell the sight or buy a Favorite to go with it? Reply #23 - Jan 8^th, 2010 at 7:53pm	Print Post
	Toolmkr is dead on according to my references. My 418 1/2 is in .25 Stevens RF and has the Lyman 2A tang sight. If they are in .22, the sights are the only way to tell for sure and they are easily changed. As I stated earlier, you could prety much special order any sight that was available at the time. Makes Stevens collecting interesting. Maybe that is why I like them so much.


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