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Opinions on Engraving Style for a Highwall
Dec 20th, 2009 at 10:30pm
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I'm in the process of buying a highwall action to make into a lightweight sporter in .30-40 Krag.   Before it goes off to have a barrel installed, I'd like to have the action engraved. Would anyone have example photos of engraved original Winchester 1885s engraving styles they would recommend that they'd like to post?  There are probably published books on engraved Winchesters, but I'm not familiar with them.  Also, does the engraving look better on a casehardened or blued action?  Were any Winchesters originally casehardened?  Thanks in advance.
  
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Re: Opinions on Engraving Style for a Highwall
Reply #1 - Dec 20th, 2009 at 10:50pm
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gunsinternational web site has a Hiwall 25-20 that is factory engraved.
it is a blued gun.  i feel that color casehardening will hide a lot of engraving. 

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Reply #2 - Dec 20th, 2009 at 11:10pm
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Factory engraved Winchester 18852s are generally considered rare. I did a search for you,

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That would normally be a dollar two ninety eight charged to your account. Due to the holidays and my current alc blood content there is no charge. Merry Christmas.  Wink

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Re: Opinions on Engraving Style for a Highwall
Reply #3 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 8:21am
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Engraving is a very personal choice, and too expensive to let others tell you what you should like. Finding a good engraver is a goes a long way towards getting a job that you are proud to own. One caution stay away from gold. Gold can be, and usually is overdone, making your project look like a tart in church.  Personally I would rather have a wedding ring on the barrel than my action looking like an 1885 Pimpmobile. Try looking through Campbell’s book for ideas.

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Re: Opinions on Engraving Style for a Highwall
Reply #4 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 8:24am
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It might be worth taking a look in John Campbell's 2 vol set on the "walls".  As I recall he discusses factory engraving.   

Not sure where you could buy it---oops --spoke before I looked ---Track Of The Wolf shows them in their catalogue and I'm betting that Buffalo Arms does too.  You should also be able to get it through inter-library loan.   there are also some books out there strictly on engraving that might be helpful as will studying high-end auction catalogues

I totally agree with 40-Rod about the gold.  the ONLY gold that looks good to me is the narrow inlaid band at breech and muzzle, and MAYBE a hairline outlining the side panels.  Of course its nothing I'll ever have to deal with Wink 
  As was said engraving is totally personal--it is commissioned art work and personalized your gun as much as a rusted in thumbprint--prettier and MUCH more expensive of course.   I personally would prefer a more understated elegant look.  More Audry Hepburn than Madonna or Anna Nichol Smith
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Reply #5 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 9:19am
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I kind of like tarts in church or anywhere else for that matter.  Now pimped out guns is a different story.  I like engraving that is understated, not the Superfly gold inlay stuff.  It may just be me but engraving on blue tends to look more like roll engraving than it does on a case hardened surface.  A true artist knows when to stop.

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Reply #6 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 12:26pm
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Sometimes, less is more. The right engraving done tastefully and in the right quantity is beautiful. I'd stay with a blued finish and agree that gold can be gaudy. Stay away from birds & animals unless you've seen enough of the engraver's work to know that he/she can do them in correct proportion and posture.
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 5:30pm
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Thanks Westerner for the search.  I had found most of those too but I wasn't satisfied.  I wouldn't have gold on a gun of mine except for maybe the serial  number and model number.  I don't care for animals, naked women or any other figures.  I like English scroll, but not the fine stuff on early english guns.  I have a Ruger No 1 done by Corky Frankolini in banknote that is very tasteful. The larger American scroll as on a late AH Fox is about as large as I want to go.  I'll have to keep looking until I find what I'm after. Thanks for the input.
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 10:22pm
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Same subject, but different. There is a picture of a Hepburn on this forum (I think). The person had a limited budget and the work was done by one of the contemporary engravers. Just some scroll work in the corners, IIRC, but very attractive. Does someone know where to find it?      Chuck
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 10:47pm
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I like the Moose in this panel.  Wink


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Reply #10 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 10:54pm
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Gambrandt?  I think thats the correct spelling. Missoula Montana I think, does fantastic work. Superb artistic ability.  Wink

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Reply #11 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 11:17pm
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  Joe, I've got to agree with you (of course I never know if your kidding),that's always been my favorate Win. pattern, including the moose & the gold outline.    ...MIKE...
  
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Re: Opinions on Engraving Style for a Highwall
Reply #12 - Dec 21st, 2009 at 11:46pm
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Joe,

I like the moose and I like the Jos. Singer, it’s a Los Angeles gun!

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Re: Opinions on Engraving Style for a Highwall
Reply #13 - Dec 22nd, 2009 at 8:00am
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I agree with DOUBS43, "less is more."  I have a HW being built and wanted simple scrolls along the edge of the receiver with a diamond-shaped scroll in the middle.  I was quoted a price of $1400... well, I guess that broke the budget.  The engraving shown are truly art.  I just wanted a little work to offset the look of an average rifle.
  
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Re: Opinions on Engraving Style for a Highwall
Reply #14 - Dec 27th, 2009 at 1:38am
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I'm not going to engrave a high wall, but I have a Plain Jane Aydt that is begging for some scratching.  For a couple of years, I have been thinking of having the likeness of a fair young damsel sans clothing engraved on the unencumbered side of the action.  The engraving I have in mind probably transgresses into the realm of pornography, so I will not be posting samples.   

I have never seen a rifle so engraved.  Is it done?  And is there an etching process that could be used?  And I'd request a PM if you know someone who might undertake such work.

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