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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16289 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #15 - Jul 1^st, 2012 at 11:11pm	Print Post
	Yes, the #3 is the only one with a dished top on the receiver, but there were many #3's made without the dished top. All the very early ones had flat tops. I've got two early flat top receiver #3 Ballards. They also had much heavier barrels. The later #3 got a lighter contour barrel, which required dishing the top to see the rear barrel sight in it's lowered position. Not sure at what point in #3 production they changed to the concave top, but I do know all that are marked "Marlin Firearms Co." have concave tops. Haven't seen enough of the flat tops to get a good serial number cutoff on the change. Not sure at what point in #3 production they changed to the concave top, but I do know all that are marked "Marlin Firearms Co." have concave tops. Haven't seen enough of the flat tops to get a good serial number cutoff on the change.

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Blufftmo Participating Member Offline Posts: 33 Joined: Nov 7^th, 2011	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #16 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 7:30am	Print Post
	I have a flat top #3 serial # 184XX. Anyone else care to share serial numbers on #3's on flat tops and/or concave?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16289 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #17 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 10:33am	Print Post
	I'll take a look at mine and get back with serial numbers.

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portside Full Member Offline Posts: 123 Location: kokomo IN Joined: Jul 8^th, 2009	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #18 - Jul 3^rd, 2012 at 11:03am	Print Post
	My #3 is concave and the SN is 350XX.


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graduated peep Ex Member	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #19 - Jul 4^th, 2012 at 5:52am	Print Post
	My #3's numbers are as follows.... Two grooved tops are: 24,6xx and 29,7xx One flat top is : 18,5xx


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GlennM Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2013	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #20 - Dec 24^th, 2013 at 10:46pm	Print Post
	Apparently an old post, but I also have a Marlin Ballard Gallery #3. Has the concave top... serial number 297**. Just in case anyone else is paying attention or doing searches regarding this rifle..... Glenn


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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #21 - Dec 25^th, 2013 at 1:43am	Print Post
	to tighten up the lever try a set of new screws. Lever pivot, lever link, and breech pivot. Those 3 should make a major difference. There should be no play on these screws. Should be tight. Don


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peterson2520ss Full Member Offline Life member 82 Posts: 128 Location: Yakima, WA Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2009	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #22 - Dec 25^th, 2013 at 9:37am	Print Post
	My number 3 is flat topped number 116xx. DST engraved and deluxe wood. Det


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16289 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #23 - Dec 25^th, 2013 at 11:38am	Print Post
	Forgot to post these, so glad this came back up! I have two JM Marlin marked flat top #3 Ballards #81xx and 92xx.

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bohemianway Oldtimer Offline Posts: 648 Location: Andover, MN Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #24 - Dec 25^th, 2013 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	I have a #3F PG, rifle plate, 1/2 oct ,26", Grooved top, muzzle is 0.625" and SN 34221 throughout.


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #25 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:51am	Print Post
	peterson2520ss wrote on Dec 25^th, 2013 at 9:37am: My number 3 is flat topped number 116xx. DST engraved and deluxe wood. Det Jeeze--that one ought to be in Dutcher's book. Before getting that book, I'd never even seen a #3 with DST. Though nothing to compare with this gun, I've got a rather odd one--a #3F with a forged receiver, #3900. Don't think it's anything really inexplicable--must have been a temporary shortage of cast receivers at the time this gun was assembled. I think I remember reading somewhere that Marlin wasn't casting these in his own factory, but having it done at a nearby foundry; this might account for some irregularity of supply.


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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #26 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:47pm	Print Post
	BGI did the casting for Ballards and others... Don


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #27 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	rustyrelx wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:47pm: BGI did the casting for Ballards and others... Don I wonder if BGI could have made the thick-base tang sights used by both Marlin & Winchester--they're exactly the same, except for base length.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16289 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #28 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 7:37pm	Print Post
	John Dutcher states that Billings and Spencer did the forgings for the receiver and block. Is this incorrect? Bridgeport Tool and Die made many sights for all the major gun makers in the northeast USA. Marlin, Remington, Savage, Whitney-Kennnedy, etc. all used front and rear barrel sights built by BTD.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Date of Manufacture - Marlin Ballard Reply #29 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 10:22pm	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 7:37pm: John Dutcher states that Billings and Spencer did the forgings for the receiver and block. Is this incorrect? Bridgeport Tool and Die made many sights for all the major gun makers in the northeast USA. Marlin, Remington, Savage, Whitney-Kennnedy, etc. all used front and rear barrel sights built by BTD. Forgings wouldn't have been produced at a foundry, would they? Does he distinguish between forgings & castings? I'll check myself. I've never heard of Bridgeport Tool & Die, but have long suspected that the big gun makers were outsourcing some, at least, of their sights; made sense economically, or they wouldn't have been doing it.


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