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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #120 - Jan 13^th, 2010 at 8:43pm	Print Post
	Sure doesn't look like lead in the picture.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11432 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #121 - Jan 13^th, 2010 at 10:38pm	Print Post
	Jeff_Schultz wrote on Jan 13^th, 2010 at 8:43pm: Sure doesn't look like lead in the picture. Good eye Jeff! Those are 30 -1 lead tin. I cast some up before I changed out the pot. Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11432 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #122 - Jan 28^th, 2010 at 8:10pm	Print Post
	In case anyone is interested, this Schutzen trigger guard is available from Track Of The Wolf. I'm building a rifle with this TG. The Gun Works has a nice Schutzen butt plate that is correct for this type of percussion rifle. The boxlock action is available from Pecatonica. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Joe

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #123 - Jan 28^th, 2010 at 8:27pm	Print Post
	Hey Joe, I hope you start another thread on this project. I think it'll deserve one of its own. I'm considering a project to build a replica myself, maybe next winter. It'd be handier to follow it that wade through this one. what will you use for a butt plate? Is that guard one of the cast steel ones. I've wondered about grafting one onto a cut off lever on ruger #3 action. I saw one a couple years ago I really liked the look of (other than a bad alloy /bluing mismatch that left the ornamental part of the lever rather purple-ish). However I have wondered about the strength of those cast steel levers---if they could be made hard/tough enough to work a FB cartridge action without bending

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11432 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #124 - Jan 28^th, 2010 at 8:55pm	Print Post
	I would DW, but I dont want to ruffle feathers. There may be others who dont want this sort of subject matter on the ASSRA forum as well. When it's done I'll most likely post it on the ALR forum and the WSU forum. I hope you dont mind me taking advantage of your thread. My intentions are honest. Due to the amount of interest in your thread I wanted to post the parts sources. Yes it's the steel / iron TG. Seems as hard and durable as any other steel. After case hardening or Kasenit it might work with a FB action although the first finger loop is a bit thin. Dont know about the off color when blued. I dont know yet how I'll finish the metal parts. The butt plate I'm using is from Joe Williams at the Gun Works. I'll post a picture of it soon. It has the flat where the upper prong goes for a fancy turned screw head. The lower prong is long like the American German rifles of the period. Steel also. Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11432 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #125 - Feb 6^th, 2010 at 5:46pm	Print Post
	Heres a picture of the butt plate from " The Gun Works ". Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11432 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #126 - Feb 10^th, 2011 at 6:24pm	Print Post
	Found another nice percussion schutzen Wayne. This one is by Franz Dischler in Munich. He was active from 1862 to 1874. Dischler was a member of Biggi's current rifle club. Joe.

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #127 - Feb 11^th, 2011 at 5:23pm	Print Post
	real nice find but thats one hellova cheekpiece!!!! looks down right awkward to me at least. give us a couple more views of it. I'm trying to figure how it'd fit. maybe I'm just seeing it wrong

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11432 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #128 - Feb 11^th, 2011 at 5:36pm	Print Post
	That was a very common style in Germany Wayne. I like it cuz it's differnt. One of my Aydts and my Stahl have a similar style. It fits me better than my Meunier. Not so much drop in this rifle stock. Checked the twist today. It's 32. Joe.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7247 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #129 - Feb 11^th, 2011 at 5:43pm	Print Post
	That's a beautiful gun, Joe and the carving on the butt is gorgeous. Will you bring it to Spoken in May? Do you lay your head and cheek to the side, to align with the sights? Or turn the stock into your face or am I seeing it wrong? Frank

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11432 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #130 - Feb 11^th, 2011 at 5:50pm	Print Post
	Yes' I'll have it at Spokane. The only difference in the way the stock feels is, it contacts much more of your cheek. From your cheek bone down almost to the chin. Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11432 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #131 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 5:18pm	Print Post
	Another German percussion schutzen with the early style cheek plate. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11432 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #133 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 3:50am	Print Post
	Projectile update. Been a while since posting here. Have done much experimenting with bullets for these original medium twist Percussion schuetzen rifles. Tried round balls, boring and wind sensitive when shooting past fifty yards. Tried picket bullets and cloth patches = not bad but not good enough. Flyers. Tried paper Chase patches and two strip paper patches. Pain to load, especially in the wind. Spotty grouping with flyers. Not good enough. My Dischler rifle measures .377 in the grooves, made a base plug for an old Ideal 375-200-300 mold. Now casts a .38 Minie bullet. Finally some real accuracy. Bullets weigh over two hundred grains and print to call at 100 yards. A big improvement. Joe.

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: ML schuetzen resources Reply #134 - Sep 18^th, 2012 at 4:51pm	Print Post
	I have not shot my .45 cal for a while, but I was able to buy one of the old Lee "modern Minnie" moulds in .45. looks like a huge honk'n hollow-base flat nosed wadcutter. Lee "tumble lube" and a pea-sized ball of my bees-wax/lanolin lube in the hollow base and it shot really nicely for some casual offhand work shooting at stumps and rocks across a pond, approx 100 yards. never got around to trying it on paper.

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