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What open rear sight
Oct 3rd, 2009 at 5:48pm
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What peep rear sight do you use?
I have seen PNW,Redfield International, Redfield Palma, Olympic and Warner, and I've heard of Lyman, Centra-redfield and a guy named Mo's.
So what do you use, would like to know before hitting up the wife for a loan.....
please honey, just one more sight.. Grin

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Reply #1 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 6:00pm
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I dont use an open sight Van. Well, I take that back, my German Schutzen rifles have barrel sights that are open and I do use them with the peep sight. When adjusted correctly they sharpen the front pinhead sight very nicely.

All other rifles have peep sights of all sorts. My Hoch has a Anshutz sight. Sometimes I use a Walther. Both have a blue filter to turn the red bull black. 

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Reply #2 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 6:04pm
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None of those listed are open sights, they're all peep sights/receiver sights.  I use a PNW on my Ruger Schuetzen rifle, and a Parker Hale 7A on my Martini 12/15.  I use a modern reproduction of the original German type sight made by Frank Zika on my Aydt.

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Reply #3 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 6:09pm
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Are you wanting to mount a sight on your Stevens? 

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Reply #4 - Oct 3rd, 2009 at 6:23pm
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Get a good vernier Soule tang sight Van.  A lot easier to use on a traditional rifle like yours, and looks right.   

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Reply #5 - Oct 4th, 2009 at 10:28am
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Van if you want a click modern style sight the Redfield Palmas can't be beat. 

Other cheaper Redfields are inferior to a Lyman 48. 48's are great sights though just collectors have run the prices up.  The high dollar new made click adjusters that modern HP shooters use I don't think are any better than Palmas or Lyman 48's  am sure they don't see it that way though.

I think CPA sells a rail that goes on the rear scope mount that has groves for a dovetail attachment rear sight.  If using one of those Anschutz sights are real good and have lots of stuff that can screw on. Polarizers filters adjustable arpetures etc.  Air gun sights work pretty good too.  If you can get zeroed Schuetzen does not require a large range of adjustment and the Air Gun sight will work fine. You might try taking the base adjustment on the front.   

Having said all that and owning and shooting matches with Lyman 48's Redfields Anschutz all of them nothing is better than a good tang sight and MVA makes the best of the bunch.  Don't have much use for the cheap tang sights, Some may be OK but the one I had was pretty bad

Like Westerner prefer Soules for single shots. I think the veneer is more precise than a click you just can't adjust without taking the rifle down and looking, Not a handicap in Schuetzen Big handicap in modern rifle matches on the clock.

MVA's are expensive , you can pick up used click adjusters pretty cheap.  Try Neal Johnsons Gunsmithing in Colorado Springs. He has a lot of consignment Anschutz stuff on his web site.

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Reply #6 - Oct 4th, 2009 at 8:09pm
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Don't try Neal Johnsons as he is no longer in business. He has retired. I have MO's, Warner, Anschutz Internationals & match, PNW, Redfield Olympic International and Palma's and all are good sights. Some have better resolution than others but all well made and will get the job done. I prefer the Warner but it isn't worth the extra money in my opinion. You can find Redfield olympics and International for under $100 in great shape and they will be a great sight for you. If you find one with the M8 on the knob it is a 1/8 min sight like the Palma instead of 1/4 min. That is nice for our bench matches.
  
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Re: What open rear sight
Reply #7 - Oct 4th, 2009 at 9:32pm
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Well here's the story........I already have a Olympic but it needed an adapter to install the Gehman iris I bought and doing that it seems to decress the size of the hole I see through. An a very good friend told me that him and another shooter had bad luck after about a year by shooting it apart.   The olympic and the adapter and the gehman really sticks out and it feels weak.
Right now there are a couple palmas and Inter. on ebay.
I borrowed a Mos from a friend and with the iris in without the adapter it looks thro looks bigger and the Mos just is more sturdy feeling, so how much would you offer this guy for the Mos??????
Oh, I already have a Cannon (top quality) soule sight but I need the 1.5 mag of the Gehman iris....just can't see the red targets with the soule...
I have a hard time following my grandfathers advice in buying quality the first time and saving $$$$.

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Re: What open rear sight
Reply #8 - Oct 4th, 2009 at 9:56pm
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Mo has made several different styles of sights over the years.  Here's his contact information to find out which one you have offered to you and what they sell for new:   

Mo DeFina     MCS, Inc.

166 Pocono Road

Brooksfield, CT 06804

203-775-1013, FAX 203-775-9462

Store Calling Hours:

Tuesday thru Thursday: 10AM to 9PM

Friday: 6PM to 9PM

Saturday 10AM to 4PM

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Re: What open rear sight
Reply #9 - Oct 5th, 2009 at 8:52am
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Van if the Gehman accessories are what you need probably easier to stay with a German sight.   I guess it depends on the match you are shooting. New made sights are probably great for over the course were lots of adjusting is needed. If shooting only Schuetzen at one distance holding the apertures and accessories and making small precise adjustments is all it needs to do.   I do like some of the stuff you can screw on to Anschutz sights, Polarizer in particular.   Front sights quick adjustable aperture too. 

Did not know Neal had closed his shop. He already retired one time, from the Air Force.

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Re: What open rear sight
Reply #10 - Oct 5th, 2009 at 9:08pm
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If you have a block for a front sight you may want to try a 18 or 22mm sight like a anschutz and a eagle eye lens 1.5 or 1.3x. I prefer them to the diopter in a gehman or anschutz rear. But if you want the color filters as well to help darken the red color you my as well  stay with the rear. Palmas come with the large thread size used with the gehman, I have a MO's and that is a good sight, I think they used to run around $250-275, at Champions Choice new, used I wouldn't give much more then $150 if excel shape.
  
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