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Wind flag recommendation
Aug 19th, 2009 at 9:40pm
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I am finally going to break down and get a wind flag. What would you recommend? I was looking at the Caldwell flags and read that they were discontinued. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe S
  
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Re: Wind flag recommendation
Reply #1 - Aug 19th, 2009 at 9:50pm
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Joe most of the guys  (at least at Etna Green) seem to fabricate their own.  It seems to be one of the real creative aspects of the game.  Some are downright amazing--and even work pretty well. 
A few have bought flags from Sinclair or some of the other precision shooting suppliers. Look at the ads in Precision Shooting or check out the benchrest web forums.  I'll bet someone has posted instructions for a DIY
Some are as simple as a basic 3 or 4 foot stake with a strip of cloth attached at the top.
  Some guys just sit next to a guy who has a whole field of them.
  Some guys just wait untill a whole bunch are shooting they let theirs fly.  (Never shoot if no one else is--there's probably a good reason)
  

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Reply #2 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 6:12am
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These are what I am going to try at the Fall matches.

I have found the "socks" easier to see and tell the angle of the wind.

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Reply #3 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 7:18am
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I watch everybody elses.

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Re: Wind flag recommendation
Reply #4 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 7:45am
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Sometimes I shoot other peoples wind flags just for the fun of it.  Cheesy

I prefer the sock kind.  Wink

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Re: Wind flag recommendation
Reply #5 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 10:33am
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Joe:

Was that shoot at other people's flags or shoot based on other people's flags? Was wondering where those holes came from.

For intermediate wind I prefer wind socks, for heavy wind I prefer wind probes and for light wind I prefer seismic flagging or cassette tape ribbons.

Other items that have worked for others is a wool ball on a string and ofcourse the good old daisy wheel to indicate changes in wind speeds.

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Re: Wind flag recommendation
Reply #6 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 2:15pm
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Actually kidding aside and Offhand shooters perspective only, You need to know what the wind is doing way before it hits range wind flags.

I go to a match having read the weather forecast in advance and observe the condition carefully at the range before firing a shot. Clouds trees grass etc.  If it's NE 10-12 knots stronger turning to the north and lighter as it goes around to more east I know it in advance.

Will also put some shots on the sighter target in the most adverse condition and least adverse condition just to see what the effect is in MOA

Natural wind indicators off range will give me a good idea of what coming. Wind flags on the range itself may confirm. but by the time they indicate the actual, it's already happened. I want to mount the rifle and break the shot before any wind change hits the range.

I suppose if bench shooting the time lag between seeing the wind flags and breaking shots is shorter than offhand. Myself don't see the need to put any of my own out, plenty of things to indicate wind out there. Only thing I trust is the sighter target.

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Re: Wind flag recommendation
Reply #7 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 2:42pm
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When I shot silhouettes with Jay Scruggs he amazed me how he could read the wind with no range flags. When I asked him how he did it he said he could feel the wind on his face. I think there might have been a few tricks he didnt tell me about.  Huh

I wasnt kidding when I said I like to shoot windflags.  Cheesy I'm still using the windsocks my daughter made for me when she was ten. They have a few holes in um cuz sometimes I shoot my own flags for the fun of it.  Wink

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Re: Wind flag recommendation
Reply #8 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 4:22pm
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Joe:

I could help you out by putting some Jane Fonda stickers on your windsocks next time.
  
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Re: Wind flag recommendation
Reply #9 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 10:37pm
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i shot them when i no their laying.......wind flags that is.....
Joe would you please sign that little 25 hole in my wind flag next time we shoot together?
  
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Re: Wind flag recommendation
Reply #10 - Aug 21st, 2009 at 3:00am
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Van wrote on Aug 20th, 2009 at 10:37pm:

i shot them when i no their laying.......wind flags that is.....
Joe would you please sign that little 25 hole in my wind flag next time we shoot together?


Sure Van!

If I could have only one type windflag, it would be the wind sock made like Keiths. Mine were useless in the strong winds at Modesto a few years ago. Someone had the sock type and thats what I used to very good effect. They work in light wind and a strong wind. 
I dont think one wind sock/ flag is enough. I carry five with me to the matches and always try to use all of them.  We get a tail wind at the range in Poulsbo  that is undetectable unless you have a flag at the targets. It will blow a shot six inches high at two hundred yards. The mysterious high shot problem was solved one day when one of my targets went straight up when the bottom staples pulled out. A ribbon stapled to the target frame works good too.

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Re: Wind flag recommendation
Reply #11 - Aug 22nd, 2009 at 8:33pm
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At a recent smallbore match, I watched a world-class competitor set out her wind flags.  They were el cheapo styrofoam cups with bits of acrylic yarn tied to them.  They pivoted on polished steel pins.  First she pushed the pins into the ground and then transfixed the styrofoam cups at their CG.  Worked very well.
  
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