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gatersb
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Thanks for the add
Aug 12th, 2009 at 3:11pm
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Hey guys thanks for the add.  I really like single shot rifles and really even shotguns but I have a question.  I seen on the web that someone made a 32 s&w long rook rifle using a 410 single shot shotgun.  Now I assume its safe with factory loads or the equivalent but my question is do any of you know of who would do this kind of work or would the cost simple not be worth it.  I have a 410 single shot shotgun and would be willing to part company with it for a while so turnaround time wouldn't be that big of a deal.  Anyways enough rambling thanks again.

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Re: Thanks for the add
Reply #1 - Aug 12th, 2009 at 4:34pm
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Ah, his first post and with a good question.  Welcome to the insanity, gatersb!

There are a number of gunsmiths on this list who could do the work you're looking for, but the question is usually one of dollars.  This type of, almost, R&D type job does take a fair amount of time, and most gunsmiths are reluctant to work for peanuts...something about putting food on the table!   Grin   

Why don't you tell us a bit about what type of .410 you've got, and where you are...there may be somebody on the forum that's in the business that's near you who would be interested in the job.   Wink

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Re: Thanks for the add
Reply #2 - Aug 13th, 2009 at 1:22am
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gatersb,

     As my friend David says, making this conversion could involve a whole lot of custom, one-off work with the shotgun in question... but then again, maybe not.  if it is a break-open action, it might be fairly simple to just sleeve the barrel and gin up some sort of extractor to engage the smaller rim of the .32. 

     In fact, you could probably even make up an insert to go into the existing bore, much like the sub-bore tubes used in skeet sets for shotguns.  With the pistol-class cartridge you mention, the tube could be fairly short and still get the job done... it could be floating on O-rings at front and rear to protect the bore if you wanted to go back to the shotgun. 

     I have the simplest version of this in 20 ga to step down to .410... they are for my over and under and their only drawback is that you remove the whole unit to change the spent cartridge, but this is like loading and unloading a rather over length shell.  For better results, though, I would suggest a secondary extractor be built into the unit, operated by the original extractor.

     That's my take on the question.  Hope it gave you some good ideas, and again, welcome aboard!

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Reply #3 - Aug 13th, 2009 at 8:08am
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Great ideas thanks yeah money is not as plentiful as it once was around here like the rest  of America.  I live in West TN between Jackson and Memphis.  I have a handi rifle in 45/70 and one of those inserts that use the 22 blanks to fire a lead roundball and its great if it will work but it only goes off about 3 out of 20 times.  I'm guessing its a headspacing problem.  Anyways maybe i'm just dreaming out loud you know one of those "one day" projects.  Thanks for the fast answers.  Hope to learn as much as I can from you guys.  Thanks
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 13th, 2009 at 9:06am
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The thread in question is probably one of Ed Harris's threads on the Castboolits site. Take a look there, search for bunny gun.

He used a .410 and I believe John Taylor did the work for him, but it is simple enough that I have done it. It is a matter of cutting the .410 barrel off ahead of the chamber and grafting a .30 or .303 barrel on. 

It makes up into a rifle that can use any of the 32 S&W family of cartridges.
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 13th, 2009 at 10:23am
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Cool thanks I will look the name sounds familar.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 13th, 2009 at 2:14pm
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I believe you will find the discussion you are looking for on the Cast Bullet Association forum; the casting forum where they know how to spell bullet. (just kidding).
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 10:46am
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Thanks again guys I think i'm gonna postpone this project and just reload for my 45/70 handi rifle and load it down to about 45 colt speeds.  Not really a rook rifle but alot cheaper and easier on the shoulder than full power loads.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 14th, 2009 at 11:50am
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I believe you will find the discussion you are looking for on the Cast Bullet Association forum; the casting forum where they know how to spell bullet. (just kidding).


That's probably correct, I was going from memory, always a mistake. Googling for Bunny Gun will bring up several threads where ever they are. Ed Harris has done quite a bit of load development with these little guns, and it is an interesting project for not much of an investment. 

  

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