For benchrest shooting; my rifle's forearms (including my Martini MK II) have been converted to 2 1/2 inch wide flat bottom forearms that fit my Bald Eagle benchrest sandbag (that is 2 1/2 inches across with a flat top and two 90 degree ears). If the forearm is wide enough and flat; it will not rotate in the sandbag from the recoil or from slight pressure from the shooter. Also when I change the forearm I put on a hanger to free float the barrel at the same time.

how about a piece os 2x4 nailed to the forearm and a couple of c clamps to help?
irish
p.s
gone hog hunting

you can  make a wood adapter to fit the accessory rail. Also someone makes a adapter that is u-shaped and attaches to a sling swivel or accessory rail. I would look on Bench rest central.

  Forgot to say that even though it's a big help in shooting small groups, be careful if you try an use it in a shoot as it's not legal for ASSRA bench rest shooting. 
  S T

I "heard" this one as referring to an International Mk V.  Since these rifles were factory equipped with a forend accessory rail, it would be an easy job to fit a flat bottomed plate no wider than the rules allowed to the rail, and use a bag to match.

David Kaiser
Montezuma, IA

Yeah, I've gotten "bit" by companies recycling product names or numbers, or using very similar ones, to denote very different items!     Not much we, as consumers, can do about it, though.

David Kaiser
Montezuma, IA

as i think this over david kaiser has thrown in exactly what i need to do.  as usual the simplier you can make something the best method.

i will have my machinist mill me something out and i will be set.

thanks

davis kaiser

Bob, 
Its been a few years since I attended  a HP benchrest match. When I did the shooters using Sinclair/Witchita and sand bags/sinthetic were winning consistently against the unlimited class guys who used the one piece rests like tha Pappas. This was in the mid nineties. Manley Oakley was a friend of mine then and we used to hash over all the different types of rifles and rests. Even when Manley was in his eighties he kept up with all the latest hi tech gadgets. 
The Pappas rest is nothing new.

So I guess I still dont understand why you would use a one piece rest. 
One advantage I can understand would be the elimination of all shooting technique. All you do is mount the rifle in the rest aim and squeeze the trigger. That will cut down on required practice and a savings in ammo. 
Once you have the machine working all that is require is mastering the wind flags. I have shot in hundreds of BR matches over the years and still havent mastered the wind flags. This is a lesson that takes some many years to learn and others no time at all. 

I dont know of anyone other than Bev Pinney that is using a one piece rest. And even Bev's isn't solid but rather linked together to maintain distance. I tried to protest his rest off the line at Tacoma. Didnt work as nobody likes to rock the boat these days.

I've watched Jim Borton shoot BR, Tommy Mason, Jack Odor, Steve Garbe, Chuck Bordman,  Russ Weber, Pat Weber, Jay Scruggs, Ron Long, Earl Hines, Jim Luke, Jim Feren, Charley Dell, Gary Miller, Ron Long, The Hamiltons, Dave Purcell, and many other top BR shooters. not one of these shooters used a one piece rest. They all have one thing in common. They all practice and master the windflags. Ive shot a fair amount of trap too. Theres always the fellow who's trying to up his scores with some new shotgun or gadget. 
So, I still dont understand the advantage to the one piece rest. It sure is a cool looking contraption. I'll bet I could modify it into a usable drilling fixture.
Joe

I forgot to mention my daughter Aliann who when she was fifteen beat Bob Vail with a 247 at 100 with a .22. 

I was mighty proud of her that day. I coached her. I told Bob I'd coach him in the next match for twenty bucks. Bob offered me twenty bucks to leave him alone lol.   

Aliann used a Stevens 44 on sandbags. 


                                                   Joe. 

Great times Dave!  Enjoy while you can cuzz they grow up and get married.  Alianns off to Germany for four years come September. 

Hmmm, grandkids,,,,,,,,hmmmmmm.  



                            Joe.