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Reply #15 - Nov 16th, 2009 at 4:37am
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Yeah thanks for the generous offer but after due consideration,
no thanks.
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Reply #16 - Nov 16th, 2009 at 5:09am
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Try one of these and let me know how it works.

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Reply #17 - Nov 16th, 2009 at 7:26am
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Nero,

     Not to be too much of a smart a$$ about it, if the next scope you get is going to spend its time in the safe, you could save a lot of bux if you sell the current scope and replace it with an empty tube from a roll of paper towels.  If you aren't using it, you won't notice any difference!

     On the other hand, if you will be using it, the use(s) to which it will be put will determine how cheap you can go.  There is some stuff coming in from China now that will let you see a .45 hole at 50 feet but not much more, and then with some careful shopping you can get a pretty good mid-major name scope in similar power to the one you have now, and do pretty well with it until you get smaller holes than .30 at greater distances than 200 yds.  I have an old Spacemaster (Bushnell) in 15-45 X and an even older Swift (60 mm?) that has a set of interchangeable lenses from 15-60 X that serve pretty well for most of what I shoot, but either of these would now have to be bought used or in a later, more expensive model.

     One factor that you don't mention is retention of value.  I dare say you could currently get more for the Swarovski than you paid for it, probably much more.  Good stuff holds its value or appreciates, while buying cheap will predictably give you little lasting value beyond its current utility, and if used, will probably wear (and lose value) more rapidly.  You pays your money and takes your choice!

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Reply #18 - Nov 16th, 2009 at 12:02pm
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Nero,

I wouldn't trade down if I were you.  If you have any need for a spotting scope at all, keep the best you can afford.   

I have an 80mm Steiner.  It's good, but I still wish I had one ten times as good.  One thing I notice a lot is that there's cheap scopes (45 to 55 mm Burris, Leupold, Nikon, and myriad imports) on almost every bench at the range where I shoot.  And many of those shooters walk down to my bench and ask if they can look through mine because they can't see the holes in their target.  They know that mine will have a clear picture, even with .22 holes.  Or they ask to borrow the Kowa TSN80's that a couple other shooters have.

A scope that won't see the bullet holes at the range you shoot at is worthless.  Even the best isn't good enough sometimes.  Like I said before, I wish mine was ten times as good, and it's close to the best.

If you're really serious about getting rid of yours, I have a B&L spare that I'd trade plus cash for yours.  Your scope would make a much better spare than the B&L for me.  It wouldn't sit in my safe, it would be in my range box or on the line.

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Reply #19 - Nov 16th, 2009 at 3:29pm
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Most of my paper shooting is at a hundred to two hundred metres with the occasional day at another range at three hundred. I cannot pick up 22. bullet holes at three hundred metres with the Swarovski. Mind you the military target I was shooting at on that day did have a lot of patches on it. At this range the scores get radioed back to us from the butts. 
I turned up at my local range thinking it would be a hundred metre range day but it turned out out to be at two hundred.
Hadn't bothered to bring my spotting scope that day knowing I was ok without it at a hundred metres. I looked through half a dozen low priced spotting scopes and could pick up 22. bullet holes ok at this range.
So on the premise that you don't have a Jag or a Merc just to do the shopping in, my thought was that the money from the Swarovski could go towards a another rifle I don't really need. 
On re-reading this through I'm thinking what a load of crap.
I would love to have a Jag or a Merc to do the shopping in, better still an Aston Martin, instead of my fifteen year old Ford.
If I really think this I wouldn't have those custom made rifles in the gun safe but a cheaply made but efficient Chinese rifle there.
Just thinking I would rather have another one off work of art to use than an expensive factory built spotting scope that to me is just a tool to use occasionally and if a cheeper scope will do the same job that I use it for then thats the way to go.
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