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Anybody have this problem? When I lived in Rock Island WA I got a copy of the journal that had Strawberry jam and fingerprints on the pages.
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Westerner-Same experience has happened to me on a couple of ocassions,but one of the craziest was a corner off a insulated envelope that arrived in my mailbox with the cancelled stamp and my address w/o contents(two 25-21 empty cartridges)sent to me by a fellow shooter!!! Fritz
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I've gotten mail pretty badly mangled, and usually with a sorry note attached formally by USPS. My postal gal always wants me to open the packages she thinks are guns, so she can see what old clunker I bought!
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My postal gal is also a gun nut, but depending on who is in the post office, she sometimes gets a little nervous if I unwrap a gun there. I like to unwrap it there in case there is damage. A post office witness is not a bad Idea.
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Somebody at my post office is not only a gun enthusiast but a slow reader! My mags (SSR-J and BPC News) both tend to come anywhere from a couple of days to a week late and now it's starting with my N-SSA Skirmish Line as well. I've gotta either get that guy a subscription of his own or sign him up for a speed reading course!!
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I know this is no help but even I get bit every once and a while. When I got my copies of the Jan/ Feb issue the envelope was ripped open and all the magazines were soaked through with water.
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My local PO is very anti-gun. Although, when I go there for a shipping-box, they are quite helpful. My mail delivery person is a hunter and always opologizes (sp) for any damage to firearms related magazines or letters . Usually it's BPC News that is roughly handled.
And postage stamps are going-up again in May to $0.44. GEEEEZZZ!
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My PO delivers every junk mail catalog and please-send-donation calendar available into my box in pristine condition but it nearly always delivers the Journal with that gray cover looking like it's gone halfway through a shredder.
I figure the gray cover is used to protect the real cover and count my blessings. But it does seem like somebody has it in for shooting publications.
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Here is a question:
I may be wrong but it seems that lately there has been an up tick in the number of members who have had just the wrappers of their journals delivered or the magazine shredded. Delivering the magazine in sealed plastic would be a way to cut down on this but it is an additional cost would you be in favor the sealed plastic bag if it meant a $5.00 increase in dues?
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Does anyone notice mail from the NRA, including American Rifleman, getting trashed in the mail? Mine always seems to come through and be handled like the junk mail, in pristine condition. But other pubs, including our local club newsletter, get destroyed from time to time. Perhaps the smaller organizations are easy pickings.
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40_Rod wrote
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Here is a question:
I may be wrong but it seems that lately there has been an up tick in the number of members who have had just the wrappers of their journals delivered or the magazine shredded. Delivering the magazine in sealed plastic would be a way to cut down on this but it is an additional cost would you be in favor the sealed plastic bag if it meant a $5.00 increase in dues?
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I am in favor of the plastic bag and the little sticky paper thingy's so the journal doesn't come open. I can afford 5 bucks a year.
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There is a very small percentage of the SSRJ's mailed out that arrive in a tattered, or only a mailing cover delivered to make the cost of different packaging from the printer.
There are only maybe one or two each issue that have to be replaced and that is not consistent number, it is normally none.
There are local post offices that have NO clue about services they are to offer, such as Address Service Requested, they just return the issue.
Then there are the returns marked NO SUCH ADDRESS, but the issues have been going to the address for multiple of YEARS.
It is just some lazy letter carrier, or one that is a sub on a route.
Believe me you guys have a good thing by not having much to do with the USPS
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John , et al, When this came up in the past I talked to a couple of postal workers. It was explained to me at the time that if paper wrapped magazines are fed into the sorting and canceling machines the wrong way it peels the jacket back and tears it. sometimes it can rip the magazine out of the jacket. It was blamed on trainee error/high turnover/work stress and employee attitude at the larger sorting facilities. It was kind of episodic with occasional incidents that were fairly isolated. A much larger problem was the problem of chronic delays of delivery in some areas.
I have noted that a few of my subscription magazines are coming it plastic envelopes now-- but I hate to see more plastic in use.
One option might be a heavier stock paper for the jacket to make them more damage-proof plus a sticker or two to hold it closed. SigPress could advise on this
For those with a pattern of delivery delay/damage problems; I talked to a local PO guy and fellow shooter about this right after lunch. His suggestion: you might make a visit to the local PO and
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ask the counter clerk if you could speak to the postmaster or his/her assistant. Explain that you need to find out how to contact the postal inspector service since you suspect that someone at a PO
farther upstream
is tampering with your gun magazines. With the pressure the PO is currently under the last thing the PO wants is a scandal about their employees messing with customers mail because of their personal political attitudes. If it appears that a PO employee is discriminating against anyone by messing with their mail--they WILL investigate. Mail tampering is a federal felony. Of course the the word of your concern will spread through the local facility and that alone may solve the problem. You can of course file an actual complaint if there is a pattern to the damage.
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Re: PO'd at PO
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I know all the ladies in our small post office. They know me. They are not the problem with my often damaged journals. I get publications from others that never get damaged. I get the feeling my issue got jammed in a machine and was probably removed and thrown on the floor where it probably received its boot print.
I forgive Bubba in Rock Island for borrowing my journal and looking at the pictures during his breakfast.
I still think it a good idea to use the three sticky thingy's to keep the journal closed.
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I've had the same problem 2 or 3 times with the SSRJ. All my other gun magazines arrive in great condition. After reading the replies, I'm inclined to think it might not be the USPS's fault. It looks to me that it’s happening somewhere closer to the printer.
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