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acelungger Ex Member	Question about shooting non coated 22's Mar 5^th, 2009 at 6:07pm	Print Post
	I have been shooting 22's for over 40 years, and have never shot anything but copper coated. Since things have went wild on the rising prices, the only thing that you can find in my area is the old lead non coated 22's, and you are lucky if you get a brick bought! If you can find them , Wal Mart is the only place to buy a brick for less than $21.50. I cast bullets for all my other guns, and anything I am shooting smokeless powder i mould using wheel weights. I have never had a fouling problem! But I know thes 22's are of a softer lead, so do you think a person can get 100 rounds perfor cleaning! I would be great full for ant thoughts on this! thanks ACE


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DoubleD Oldtimer Offline Posts: 771 Location: Edmond Joined: Feb 14^th, 2006	Re: Question about shooting non coated 22's Reply #1 - Mar 5^th, 2009 at 6:37pm	Print Post
	Acelungger, Between the wife and I we fire more the 5500 (a case) of these things a year shooting Montana Gophers. We have been doing this for 10 or 12 years. We shoot nothing but these bare lead wax coated bullets sold loose in bulk boxes of 550 rounds. The copper coated are to expensive. Only the exterior of the rifles are ever cleaned, never the bores in all those years. Every once in a while her 10-22 will have some chambering-extraction problems. When that happens, I have her trained to take a dry clean Q-tip and clean the chamber. This happens maybe once or twice a year and is done in the field.

	Douglas, Ret.
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 17904 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Question about shooting non coated 22's Reply #2 - Mar 5^th, 2009 at 8:09pm	Print Post
	I can honestly say I've never fired any of those new fangled coated .22 bullets, and my gun bores are in great shape because of it. Never had a problem with leading or build up on any .22 with a good bore. I have had issues with old corroded bores, but that's expected.

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acelungger Ex Member	Re: Question about shooting non coated 22's Reply #3 - Mar 5^th, 2009 at 8:10pm	Print Post
	Thanks Double D, I had never shot any, and didn't know what to expect! With my back the way it is, i go out much, and I din'r want to get somewear and get a little shooting in, and then not have cleaning stuff with me, if I was going to need it! When you say Gophers, are they part of the parire dog family Years ago, groups of us west and shot them all day long! thanks for the advice. i thank you to Marlinguy! Thanks ACE


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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2254 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: Question about shooting non coated 22's Reply #4 - Mar 5^th, 2009 at 8:48pm	Print Post
	The copper coated bullets are a means to get around the waxy lube on non-coated bullets that picks up dirt & lint when carried loose in hunter's pockets. I run a dry nylon bore brush through my target rifle's bore every 200 or so rounds, and will use a q-tip with solvent on it in the chamber at the same time. Since I shoot a Martini 12/15 with the cleaning rod hole in the rear of the action, it's no problem to pop the breechblock out for cleaning. David Montezuma, IA

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DoubleD Oldtimer Offline Posts: 771 Location: Edmond Joined: Feb 14^th, 2006	Re: Question about shooting non coated 22's Reply #5 - Mar 5^th, 2009 at 9:24pm	Print Post
	Gopher is the local term for the Richardson Ground Squirrel. Smaller than Prairie Dogs and Tree Squirrels. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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Set_Trigger Ex Member	Re: Question about shooting non coated 22's Reply #6 - Mar 8^th, 2009 at 7:05pm	Print Post
	This just started me thinking, and that could be a bad thing. Being that only all lead bullets can be used in ASSRA events, no gas checks etc., I guess the copper coated 22's would not be allowed, right ?. ST


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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2254 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: Question about shooting non coated 22's Reply #7 - Mar 8^th, 2009 at 7:15pm	Print Post
	Even if they were allowed, they are normally used with high speed loads that are seldom accurate enough for use at the distances we compete. At 50 feet, with my alleged skill level, it makes no difference, but at 100 or 200 yards, I need all the help I can afford to get! David Montezuma, IA

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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7722 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Question about shooting non coated 22's Reply #8 - Mar 9^th, 2009 at 7:05am	Print Post
	Agree with 38 cal, This game cannot give away any accuracy. My shooing rim fire ammo is the least expensive part. Expensive is gas, travel to matches, fees, and most of all nice single shots. Boats


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tim_s Oldtimer Offline Posts: 825 Location: 13066 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2006	Re: Question about shooting non coated 22's Reply #9 - Mar 10^th, 2009 at 3:17pm	Print Post
	38_Cal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2009 at 8:48pm: The copper coated bullets are a means to get around the waxy lube on non-coated bullets that picks up dirt & lint when carried loose in hunter's pockets. I run a dry nylon bore brush through my target rifle's bore every 200 or so rounds, and will use a q-tip with solvent on it in the chamber at the same time. Since I shoot a Martini 12/15 with the cleaning rod hole in the rear of the action, it's no problem to pop the breechblock out for cleaning. David Montezuma, IA I hate to be the voice of dissention here, but about the single worst thing you can do is run a dry anything in a rimfire bore. The combustion byproduct contains a hard crystaline residue which has been proven to abrade a bore, parcicularly if it's SS. Essentially you are pushing sandpaper down the bore...use solvent. Even using high grade match ammo with the best lube, you should only patch out while the lube is warm and soft. This has been tested and pretty much proven.

	“ I don’t have to be faster than the bear, I just have to be faster than you”
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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7722 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Question about shooting non coated 22's Reply #10 - Mar 10^th, 2009 at 5:47pm	Print Post
	Number of years ago guy wanted to sell me a Winchester M 61. Looked new except, he had two boxes of Remington Klean Bore ammo purchased with the gun, He had filled the tube mag shot them all out and put the gun away without cleaning probably 20 years prior. Still had the remainder of one box with 15 gone and the other unopened. He was sure the bore was ruined and looking it was pretty bad. I bought it took the rifle home and ran a wet patch through. Couple of strokes and it looked new, no rust at all. Was one of those few guns we make a "killing" on re-selling. Anyway I always remember it when shooting lubed rimfire ammo. Don't complain at all about the residue and would never shoot a nice rifle without lube. Boats


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