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mwhite49 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Camarillo California Joined: Nov 14^th, 2007	Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Jan 24^th, 2009 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	I just got lucky at an auction and picked this one up. The wood is shot but the metal work and bore are excellent, grungy/dirty but not pitted. This should be a fine project. Mike


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mwhite49 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Camarillo California Joined: Nov 14^th, 2007	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #1 - Jan 24^th, 2009 at 5:28pm	Print Post
	Here is a view of the top end and sights. Mike


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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2247 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #2 - Jan 24^th, 2009 at 6:25pm	Print Post
	That's going to be a great project rifle! What's the caliber? 577-450? David Montezuma, IA

	David Kaiser Montezuma, IA
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whitey hanson Ex Member	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #3 - Jan 24^th, 2009 at 7:20pm	Print Post
	Davis atleast 1/2 inch. I think Double D has a couble or maybe it is Gert. Whitey


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mwhite49 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Camarillo California Joined: Nov 14^th, 2007	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #4 - Jan 24^th, 2009 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	Double D, I think does in fact have a couple of these. It is not a 577-450 persay, supposedly it is a shorter round. And it sounds as though several folks have had good luck forming 50-70 brass and getting it to work. I think I'll go with a custom Darr mold for this one. I need to make a chamber cast as soon as I get it. Then build up the damaged stock with filler and send it off to be dupicated, at least I have that to work with. Inletting will be a job unless I can get this one certain company to do the duplicating, they do great work on butt stocks for any rifle with a two piece stock. This will be fun to shoot. Now I'm running out of room to store items. I am posting a picture of my other purchase, an early Swiss freehand target pistol in 22. Nice engraving on it.


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DoubleD Oldtimer Offline Posts: 635 Location: Cut Bank Joined: Feb 14^th, 2006	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #5 - Jan 25^th, 2009 at 2:14pm	Print Post
	(You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) The chamber is Westley Richard Carbine No. 1. It is sometimes referred to as the 1 1/2 inch Carbine. Bertram sells cases as the 500/450 No.1 Carbine...not cheaply. British Miliaria forum has a lot of discussion on this cartridge. I have two of these rifles both a No. 1 Carbine. I have shot one pleasant shooting. I put the loads together to go to the Alberta Victorian rifleman shoot last year. One of the guns I have came with 25 turned cases. I'm not a fan of turned cases, but have to go with what you got. The cases are straight cylinder inside. I filled them to the top with Fg and seated 405 grain 458 bullets on top. This isn't a big shoulder breaker cartridge,and think that is why it so much fun. In the next couple of days I am going try and make some brass from from some 450 Musket No.2.

	Douglas, Ret.
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whitey hanson Ex Member	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #6 - Jan 25^th, 2009 at 4:33pm	Print Post
	For all us Martini fans we should be very happy that Double D and Martinibelgium are members. AS those two know the martini's. And ar always willing to share their Knowledge. Thanks Guys. Whitey


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DoubleD Oldtimer Offline Posts: 635 Location: Cut Bank Joined: Feb 14^th, 2006	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #7 - Jan 25^th, 2009 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	Whitey, Sorry to disappoint, but I don't know a lot about Martini's. I do have a good deal of, but no where near enough research material on some Martini's and know how to look things up.
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	Douglas, Ret.
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mwhite49 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Camarillo California Joined: Nov 14^th, 2007	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #8 - Jan 25^th, 2009 at 7:33pm	Print Post
	I appreciate all of the help. This should be a nice rifle when completed. Some think they are as ugly as, well you know, but they are nice well made rifles with smoth actions. At least it is not a French rifle as they are mostly ugly to the bone. MikeW


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whitey hanson Ex Member	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #9 - Jan 25^th, 2009 at 7:58pm	Print Post
	DoubleD wrote on Jan 25^th, 2009 at 6:43pm: Whitey, Sorry to disappoint, but I don't know a lot about Martini's. I do have a good deal of, but no where near enough research material on some Martini's and know how to look things up. Double D thats funny as I have never had a question that you or Gert did not help and give me the CORRECT ans.Thanks whiteu


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MartiniBelgian Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1687 Location: Aarschot Joined: Jun 7^th, 2004	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #10 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 12:50pm	Print Post
	Whitey, There's the well-known truth that the more you get into a subject, the better you realize that there are more things you don't know or haven't found out yet... The more you know, the less you know!


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harry_eales Ex Member	Re: Westley Richards Improved Martini model 1871 Reply #11 - Jan 27^th, 2009 at 5:03pm	Print Post
	MartiniBelgian wrote on Jan 27^th, 2009 at 12:50pm: Whitey, There's the well-known truth that the more you get into a subject, the better you realize that there are more things you don't know or haven't found out yet... The more you know, the less you know! That's a trueism if ever I read one, it not only applies to firearms, but also to women, bless them. Harry


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