This is not a rant but a proposal, It is my next editorial for the Journal that I am posting early to get your response. As the editorial states I am interested in bringing this up at the general membership meeting. What do you think? Let me know.
For the Record      

  In the January February issue I published the list of record scores for the ASSRA. It struck me that since I have been the editor of the Journal no records have been submitted from any of the affiliated clubs. This puzzled me so I went to the Constitution and the Match, Equipment and Scoring Rule books for guidance. Our Constitution is mute on the subject of match records, but The Match, Equipment and Scoring Rule book contains section 7.10 Records
Records are kept for each individual match event, but also for high target scores even though the high score target is part of another event. For example if one target of the Hudson match has a score bettering 241-5 it will set a new record for a 10 shot Offhand target score. 
7.11 
Matches named for specific shooters (except the Hudson match), which are shot only at the Etna Green range, will be considered world class records. Similar matches shot at affiliated club ranges will not be designated by these names, but will qualify for ASSRA National records for matches, which adhere to the same rules. For example: The Hill Match is a single entry, any sight, ten shot offhand match. Scores for this event fired at Etna Green only will qualify for entry in the world class records. A similar single entry, any sight, ten shot offhand match fired at an affiliated club will not qualify the shooter for a place in the world records but will be included in the national match records. It is possible for a shooter at Etna Green to shoot a score that will simultaneously set a world record and a national record. 

  With all due respect neither of these is helpful in determining how scores become records. It starts with the assumption that the score is recognized but lays out no mechanism for submitting the score for consideration. Also the terms World and National records are somewhat confusing and have become a point of contention for some who will never be able to attend a match at Etna Green and therefore qualify for a WORLD record.
  My first proposal is to change the titles of the match records To: Record scores for matches shot at the five ASSRA matches per year held at Beeson’s Range in Etna Green Indiana be designated as National Match Records. These five matches are open to all ASSRA members and are held on the range owned and operated by the ASSRA. These five matches are our National matches and the time when all members are welcome to come and shoot shoulder to shoulder with ASSRA members from affiliated clubs from all over the country. This range is not operated by local club and is the property of all ASSRA members. Record scores shot at all other ASSRA affiliated venues, by ASSRA members will be designated as Affiliated Club Records. 
  Second I would like to establish how scores qualify as records. This is what I would propose:

1.)      The target to be considered is to be signed by the Schuetzenmeister to verify that the target was shot at a match under ASSRA rules and that the Shooter is an ASSRA member.
2.)      The signed target is to be sent to the Clubs coordinator for verification. If the target is to be returned to the shooter a self addressed stamped envelop of an appropriate size should be sent with the target.
3.)      The Clubs coordinator will notify the ASSRA Schuetzenmeister and the Journal editor of any new records.
4.)      The Journal editor will add any new or tied records to the list of ASSRA records.

The procedure is simpler for records shot at Etna Green as the ASSRA Schuetzenmeister runs the matches he needs only to examine the target to determine if a record has been broken and inform the Journal editor. 
  I believe that this will clear up a lot of confusion and miscommunication on how records are set and what is a record. This is the proposal that I would like to present to the general membership at the Spring Meeting. I would like to get your thoughts on the subject. In addition to the editorial page I am placing this on our website for comment. If you have any comments or criticisms please write or e-mail me or post your comments on our website.

40 Rod

Wow 
Almost 100 looks and only one comment. Just a few months ago the subject of record scores was a big deal. The criticism included not only assertions that shooters in some local matches were left out, but this was another example of how the ASSRA “high Muckety Mucks” didn’t care about the rank and file. So I put together a proposal to fix the problem and post it so that all of you who can’t get to a meeting can put in your ideas because that seems to be another major complaint. Your silence has been deafening. One person actually posted a comment. 

40 Rod

The issue has been raised on this forum a number of times and has been supported with personal discussions with the BODs. At this point it is up to the BODs to put a process in place that actually records and reports Club records; not just the World records. Any further discussions in public about our concerns seems to result in dismemberment. 

Unfortunately many of those who were concerned have left the ASSRA.

Ok read it over and still appreciate the effort and thought.

Seems to me based on numbers of shooters at different venues soon we will have a "world record" that is numerically lower than "national records".  Many more people shoot outside Etna Green than at Etna Green, In offhand for example there is little competition at the ASSRA home range and any records fired there ought to be vulnerable.

Considered that point ?  It's ok with me if that takes place but expect it will happen.  Why not cut to the chase and make a record a record were ever it's shot.

Boats

I will be more than happy to go with whatever is clearly stated and consistently used.  To keep it from getting too cumbersome, we might want to let each local club keep and submit their own local records which could be then compiled for an ASSRA (association wide) record.  Records shot at Etna Green would be maintained as Etna Green Records in the same way that records achieved at the Olympics are categorized as Olympic Records as distinct from World Records in all events.  I have a little bit of a philosophical problem with ASSRA using the term "World Record" since we are not the only such shooters in the world shooting on the only offhand targets in the world, but on things like the size of a group off the bench (as was reasonably achieved by Dale Reynolds) there could be direct comparison.  JMHO, YMMV.

Froggie

Let's keep it simple. National Records can be shot at any ASSRA or ISSA sanctioned shoot. Naturally, the Schuetzenmeister must verify and
a couple of witnesses should also sign off. Jim Feren's 2341 is the national record in the 100 shot offhand match. I know of at least 3 250's that were shot with irons sights at an ISSA match. Folks, I'll bet that at
least 95% of the shooters at any schuetzen shoot are ASSRA members. And I see no reason for conflicts.
On another subject, I personally have no problem supporting the Etta Green facility. It's comforting to have the range.

fred

It's third or fourth hand from me but think Jim Ferens 2341 was at a ASSRA club on the ASSRA target and under ASSRA rules. But not at Etna Green.

Boats

Agree with you completely.

Jim Feren was one of the best offhand shooters of his time. Won Modern Rifle championships more than once. His efforts with a Single shot have not been properly recognized.

Boats