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Reply #15 - Dec 15th, 2008 at 4:16am
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I have three HH rifles, a maple flintlock long rifle, a maple Winchester 63, and a walnut Winchester 61. The FL was bought at auction but the .22s were made for me by him around 1967.  For a while I also owned a factory engraved Remington 81 with HH maple stocks, I sold it to the gent who wrote the little book on Rem auto rifles.  HH charged $75 for the .22s.   The wood for the 61 came from Shotgun News where sets of stock blanks for the fancy Iver Johnson Skeeter were being sold for $5.  The 63 is ser. no. 285, it came from the Remington sample room, they sold off a whole bunch of older rifles to a pawn shop on the East Side of Manhattan, mostly brand new, I bought two or three new Ballards, etc., maybe a dozen guns in all, the 63 was mint but with a busted stock, had read about Hartley so sent it to him.   Gorgeous maple, super workmanship.   But I never liked his bolt action stocks as much as his two piece work.   Then some years later I wanted another rifle stocked but HH said he was having trouble with his eyes and had quit stockmaking.
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 6th, 2014 at 7:46pm
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I hate to resurrect an old thread but when I found it I couldn't pass up a few comments.

Back in late '69 I first met Hal Hartley as the gal I had recently married was from a little adjacent town called Whittnel. She knew exactly where Blairs Fork was and we went to see him. Long story short he made a custom 270 Winchester for me out of his famous tiger tail maple and fitted it to an FN Supreme action and Douglas Premium barrel with a steel Neidner style buttplate. If I did my part it would consistently group into 3/4"

Twenty some odd years ago I had to sell it reluctantly as we all had been RIF'd and I was out of work past the extension on my unemployment insurance. I mourn that rifle to this day and would gladly give four times what I paid for it($650) but I know I'll never find it. This is a bad photo of it as digital cameras with 24 mp weren't' available back in 1972 when I took it. It's a Polaroid that I scanned.

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Reply #17 - Nov 6th, 2014 at 9:16pm
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Green frog, Michael Petrov died early this year.
  
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Reply #18 - Nov 6th, 2014 at 10:11pm
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I hate to resurrect an old thread but when I found it I couldn't pass up a few comments.

Back in late '69 I first met Hal Hartley as the gal I had recently married was from a little adjacent town called Whittnel. She knew exactly where Blairs Fork was and we went to see him. Long story short he made a custom 270 Winchester for me out of his famous tiger tail maple and fitted it to an FN Supreme action and Douglas Premium barrel with a steel Neidner style buttplate. If I did my part it would consistently group into 3/4"

Twenty some odd years ago I had to sell it reluctantly as we all had been RIF'd and I was out of work past the extension on my unemployment insurance. I mourn that rifle to this day and would gladly give four times what I paid for it($650) but I know I'll never find it. This is a bad photo of it as digital cameras with 24 mp weren't' available back in 1972 when I took it. It's a Polaroid that I scanned.

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Man even with a not great photo, you can tell that's a great piece, thanks for sharing. I've got to hone my image skills and put up a couple images of the gun I have.
  

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Reply #19 - Nov 16th, 2014 at 9:05pm
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Hartley stocked 225 Win. SST  by C. C. Johnson.
  

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Reply #20 - Nov 16th, 2014 at 9:06pm
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One more.
  

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Reply #21 - Feb 4th, 2015 at 11:30am
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I may have the largest collection of Hartley stocked rifles in existence. I have seven single shots, Winchester High Walls and one Low Wall, and a Sharps Borschardt, that he stocked, all but two in maple. I also have four bolt rifles, three Springfields and an Enfield, which he stocked for me in walnut.

My involvement with Hal dates back to the late 1950's. He and my local gunsmith, friend and former business partner, the late Harry Creighton, had a serendipitous relationship whereby Harry, who did no stock work, recommended Hal to customers, and Hal, who did no metal work, referred customers to Harry.

I visited Hal at his home in Lenoir, NC on a couple of occasions, but otherwise our contact was almost entirely by mail. He was a fine man, a fine stock maker, and a real gentleman.
  
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Reply #22 - Feb 4th, 2015 at 5:53pm
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xausa,

I have a 1909 Argentine Mauser rebarreled by Harry Creighton with a Douglas featherweight to .257 Roberts, and visited with him at his downtown Nashville shop several times, and also at the Gallatin Gun Club, where he shot benchrest.  He did quality work!  I didn't realize he and Hartley had a working relationship.

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Reply #23 - Feb 4th, 2015 at 5:59pm
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Reply #24 - Feb 8th, 2015 at 7:32pm
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Those are really great shots, thanks. One of the things I found intetesting on mine was the stock has a pillar between the tangs and a  long bolt to the butt. The butt plate has a trap door for access. Makes for a solid stock.
Never knew whether that was a CC feature or Hartleys. Do your HW 's  have anything like this?
  

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Reply #25 - Feb 8th, 2015 at 10:38pm
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Hal Hartly also did an excellent article, in the Gun Digest about 1978 or so, on him completely rebuilding a percussion muzzle loader, including recutting the rifling.  If I remember correctly it had belonged to his grandfather.  Of course he built a new maple stock for it too.

Great craftsman.
  
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Reply #26 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 6:00pm
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tim_s wrote on Feb 8th, 2015 at 7:32pm:
Those are really great shots, thanks. One of the things I found intetesting on mine was the stock has a pillar between the tangs and a  long bolt to the butt. The butt plate has a trap door for access. Makes for a solid stock.
Never knew whether that was a CC feature or Hartleys. Do your HW 's  have anything like this?


I have one High Wall stock which Harry used that treatment on. It was not one of Hal's however. The purpose was to strengthen the fit of wood to metal, and there was no need to use it with a Hartley stock.
  
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Reply #27 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 11:29am
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xausa, what a great looking bunch of singleshot sporting rifles! Really classy workmanship! Don't see them built that way anymore!
  

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Reply #28 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 10:22pm
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Hello to fellow Hal Hartley admirers. I thought I had entered this previously but I don't see it. Anyway I purchased a Model 70 on line in .300 Wheatherby a few years ago. It has a stunning maple stock and upon disassembly I found H Hartley written in pencil and dated 1955. This peaked my curiosity and was pleased to find out that he was a noted stock maker. I'm not sure I can transfer a photo but I'd try if anyone was interested. Jack Lorraine Canastota NY
  
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Reply #29 - Feb 14th, 2021 at 1:03pm
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My sales territory moved westward from Piedmont NC in about 1996 .... I stopped in to visit Hal Hartley when in Lenior. His shop was on 2nd floor of 2 story cinderblock building, 2 car garage on bottom and Hal's shop on top floor. I would introduce myself each time and I don't think Hal said much of anything just continued working. I was a SS rifle guy in those days and did stocks and mainly checkering. Hal made his checkering tools from a nail and file.
One day I watched him complete a 98 Mauser stock that had the barrel action already fitted and outside rough cut with band saw. Hal used a small hatchet with super sharp edge and 6-7" handle and chipped the final shape in less than 10 minuites.
My last visit DID NOT HAPPEN. Hal Hartley had passed. I found his brother that lived nearby and he said Hal got "sick" and passed in less than a week ..... cancer maybe??
I made a stock for a Ruger #1 270 Win in Tiger tail maple. Attached a picture.
My Picture was TOO Large to upload.

  
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