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Paul_F.
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American Gun Co (McGowan Barrels) High Wall-SOON!
Oct 20th, 2008 at 5:04pm
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It appears that McGowan Barrels, (American Gun Co. LLC at (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) ) is going to have their 1885 High Wall out sooner than expected.

Looks like they're shooting for (no put intended) for next month!

It also looks like their prices are a heck of a lot lower than I expected!

$765 for an action, plus a (round) barrel (in the white, two items not attached to each other... just a "kit").
$900 - same thing, but half-octagon barrel.

Basic rifle; ("THe Classic" model) - 1885 complete custom rifle with straight tapered round barrel, chambered, Premium grade walnut butt stock and Forend, steel butt plate, polished blue finish 
$1250.00 


I've emailed them a couple questions about the lower tang (curved or straight) and the dimensions of their .38-55 chambering...
I'm very seriously considering a barreled-action kit in .38-55 around the 1st of December (overtime paychecks willing).   

I'm probably going to be posting a question about who to go to for a lower tang modification if McGowan comes back saying "straight" tang...   Smiley   

Here's hoping that AGC has as good a quality as them perpetually late Eye-Talians guns that we haven't seen yet!   

Paul F.

PS  I'm trying NOT to get my hopes up... like I did with the Pedersoli...   
  
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Re: American Gun Co (McGowan Barrels) High Wall-SO
Reply #1 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 3:37am
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That is god news, in an eelier email they told me that they were making both the straight tang and the bended tang if for some reason they don’t deliver the bended tang right away Wyoming Amory in Cody have the tools to bend the tang.

Michael
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 4:00am
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Boy at that price they should sell like hot cakes.  Ken
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 10:58am
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That's an interesting group of calibers they're offering. I wonder why no 40-65  Huh I think they might be missing out on sales to BPCR Silhouette shooters there. 
Nice looking rifle at a great price, however. Hope things go well for them.
Steve
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 21st, 2008 at 12:31pm
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They're not real good at answering emails (I emailed them saturday.. no reply yet), but I'll cut 'em some slack, since I'm guessing they're pretty busy getting rifles together!

As for .40-65, I dunno... but maybe they couldn't decide which set of prints to use for it (I gather that there are a few minor variations).   

If I have time in the next few days during business hours, I'll call them about the .38-55 specs and lower tang.

I WANT ONE..  Smiley


Paul F.
  
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Re: American Gun Co (McGowan Barrels) High Wall-SO
Reply #5 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 1:32pm
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Marketing; why no set trigger options, and of course, where is the 40-65?

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Reply #6 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 1:40pm
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Fred;

Just a guess on my part;  They probably want to get the "basic models" out the door first... before they complicate their lives with additional parts supplies, models, etc.

Paul F.
  
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Re: American Gun Co (McGowan Barrels) High Wall-SO
Reply #7 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 4:44pm
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Just spoke to jon frost. He said with the kits you can order any cal. barrel they make. The cals. stated are for the prefinished barrels. So you 40-65 guys can order a .40 and have it chambered. The set triggers will come out later. He said that the action is an exact copy of the original. They will also sell parts in the future. Nice guy. 
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Reply #8 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 4:51pm
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Cool!

Didn't happen to mention if they do or will have a curved lower tang... did he?
Smiley

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Reply #9 - Oct 22nd, 2008 at 5:02pm
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Is there a webpage that shows a picture of this?
As far as caliburs, do they state what the actual bore measures?
  
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Reply #10 - Oct 23rd, 2008 at 11:13am
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Buggybuilder;

Follow the link at the top of this thread for info about the High Wall specifically, and try (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) for info on their barrels.
Not much in the way of pictures of the High Walls yet.. but like I said, I'll cut them some slack until they're actually shipping some.

Paul F.
  
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Re: American Gun Co (McGowan Barrels) High Wall-SO
Reply #11 - Oct 23rd, 2008 at 8:53pm
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In discussions with AGC concerning finished rifles I noted the following, some of which has already been discussed here:
Wayne

* Rough cast receivers are from Shiloh Sharps – All machining, fitting &
   finishing is done by AGC
* Barrels are manufactured in house by McGowen Precision Barrels
   ( (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)).  McGowen does the contouring, finishing,
   etc.
  - Various calibers including .38-55, .38.56, .45-70, .45-90.  Note -
    does not offer a .40-65 at this time.
  - Buttoned rifled with 0.004” deep riflings.  2:1 groove to land ratio.
    Bore is honed and hand lapped.  Barrels are stress relieved after
    rifling.
  - Various twist rate options are available.  For example the .38-55 is
    available in 10/12/16/18 twist rates at no additional charge.
    Note - Cut rifling is a custom feature for an additional
    charge.  McGowen sends the drilled & reamed blanks to Lawrence
    Rifle Barrels to cut the rifling.  He has an excellent reputation in the
    industry for precision work.
  - Dovetails are a custom feature for an additional charge.
  - Drilling and tapping the barrel is a custom feature for an additional
    charge.
  - Customer specifies muzzle crown – generally no charge.
* Stocks & forearms are from Montana Stock Exchange
  - I did not ask how the forearm mounted to the receiver/barrel?
* Initial receivers will be thick wall with octagon tops.  Thin walls and
  round tops will come later.
  - Drilling and tapping the receiver tang for a rear sight is a custom
    feature for an additional charge?  Customer specifies hole spacing
    and thread specifications.
* Action components are identical to classical Winchester High-Walls –
  parts will interchange.
  - Set triggers are not available at this time - single and double set
    triggers available soon.
  - Stock is mounted via tang screws - no stock through bolt.
* Factory warranty on work only and/or any product defects.
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Reply #12 - Oct 24th, 2008 at 11:47am
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ssdave and texasmac;

Great info!  Thanks!

I also got a reply from Jon Frost on my questions...
Yes on curved tang..
Their .38-55 reamer is the "short" traditional SAAMI version (which I kind of expected...).

I am putting together a "request for quote" email this morning...  I wish I could just CALL them, but I don't have phone access from work, and they're closed after I'm off work.

Sure nice to see someone else entering the single-shot market!
Paul F.
  
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Reply #13 - Oct 24th, 2008 at 1:56pm
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I had a fairly lengthy phone conversation with the folks about a week and half ago. Don't know who I talked to but think it was Mr Frost. A very friendly and informative guy who patiently answered my list of questions. Consistant with all of the above. 

The only thing that I can add is that he told me that the posted prices will be held for the forseeable future. And that being a barrel manufacturer, they can supply most any configuration that one would want. And that they hope to have them out the door be the end of the year.

Things that got this old farts attention------------

Investment cast of 4140 in Shiloh Sharps foundry

An true copy of the Winchester thick side Hiwall,(parts will interchange)

In kit form so that I can build what I want.

Insistance that the quality will be there.

Price.

And they will be AMERICAN MADE.

So, I am going to see where they are next month and order a kit with a different barrel.

If this is all true and comes to pass, my gut tells me that they will have a pretty busy future. I do hope so. 


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RD
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 25th, 2008 at 6:07pm
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Boy, this is fantastic news.  I'm just finishing up a Highwall in 40-90 Ballard (draw filing the barrel today).  

It is built on a C.Sharps action that I was not very happy with.   The sides were ground slightly concave, the top flat is out of square with the sides, and they neglected to finish drill the firing pin hole in the block.  Best part was that they installed the firing pin any way, a process that had to involve a hammer.   Took me 15 minutes of patient tapping to remove the firing pin, which was bent.  But I digress.

I had just about talked myself into building my next one on an Uberti action figuring it couldn't be any worse.

I wonder if they have plans to produce a DST spur lever model? 

Jack
  
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