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rafter-7 Ex Member	Anyone know what this is? Sep 20^th, 2008 at 9:14pm	Print Post
	The bore is about .54 smoothbore and only goes down the muzzle about 14", but the bolt is about 21 1/2" back from the muzzle. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Bolt cocked back. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Only mark on gun is end of muzzle. 12N (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Bolt fired (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Anyone have any idea? Rafter-7
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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11551 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #1 - Sep 21^st, 2008 at 1:15am	Print Post
	You have a Zimmerstutzen rifle. Looks like the breech mechanism is missing. and possibly the barrelette. Some Zimmers have a short barrelette just ahead of the breech. Does it have one? Joe.

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Schutzenbob Frequent Elocutionist Offline Rheinisch-Westfälisc hen Sprengstoff-Fabriken Posts: 2063 Location: Nightingale, California Joined: Oct 24^th, 2005	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #2 - Sep 21^st, 2008 at 5:54am	Print Post
	Yeah, I have to agree with Joe, it's probably a Zimmerstutzen or "Parlor Rifle" however, it seems to be a variation on the more commen design; (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Is there a 4mm barrel down in there somewhere? Bob


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rafter-7 Ex Member	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #3 - Sep 21^st, 2008 at 8:51am	Print Post
	from the breech forward the first 7 1/2 inches of the big barrel has a sleeved insert when I looked down with a light all I could see was crud and grease the action end there is about a 3/8" round by 1/4" deep (priming pocket)? Ill take it to the farm and really hose it out I still need help on the priming system I will half to look harder at the links provided so far thanks half to get to work rafter-7


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2853 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #4 - Sep 21^st, 2008 at 10:49am	Print Post
	After you get done hosing the innards, check to see how much is missing. I've seen a couple of Zs that were converted to regular .22 rimfires. That may be easier than restoration.


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tim_s Oldtimer Offline Posts: 817 Location: 13066 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2006	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #5 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 10:58pm	Print Post
	It's a Zimmer, likely a 4mm gun. The # on the muzzle is the ball size which would vary by .1/mm. My guess is that it's a trainer-guild gun, the breech which appears to be a simple cam over type is gonna be tough to come up with.
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leadball Ex Member	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #6 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 6:45pm	Print Post
	It appears that the tang sight may be on backwards----leadball


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richard0331 Participating Member Offline Posts: 18 Location: Morgantown, In. 46160 Joined: Apr 17^th, 2007	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #7 - Aug 15^th, 2009 at 12:56am	Print Post
	It' a girl..Oh, the rifle, One of 'em is a Winchester thumb trigger rifle. No finger trigger or t.guard. The other is a German zimmerschutzen. They were usually 4mm. The barrel insert(a short section of barrel, usually about 10 inches long may be missing. They were usually held in with a set screw or a dovetail wedge. R. B.


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ray Participating Member Offline Posts: 18 Location: Waimate Joined: Jul 4^th, 2006	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #8 - Aug 16^th, 2009 at 6:13am	Print Post
	As well as the girl there looks to be Winchester M 68, M.02 M 99 and some german contraption. Is there a prize?


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trapdoor Dick Oldtimer Offline Posts: 557 Location: Newark Joined: Mar 26^th, 2009	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #9 - Aug 16^th, 2009 at 1:19pm	Print Post
	The loading system on the Zimmerstutzen uses a seperate loading piece. One of the guys that shoots in this years postal match has one similar and had a machinist friend make him an extra,,in case he lost it. Wihout both that and the barrel insert it's a nice wall hanger. Parts are still around and I would hunt a while before converting to .22. It's a fairly plain, but very nice Zimmerstutzen. Dick

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rafter-7 Ex Member	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #10 - Aug 17^th, 2009 at 8:59am	Print Post
	alrighty then... I guess I deleted a few non important pics from my photobucket file and a few winchesters sliped in thier spot! now I suppose the other threads are messed up too?? live and learn rafter-7


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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2247 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #11 - Aug 17^th, 2009 at 10:00am	Print Post
	Old guns, dogs and kids helping Dad (or Grandpa?)...it don't get much better than that, even if some of the guns are not on subject! No need to apologize! David Kaiser Montezuma, IA

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acelungger Ex Member	Re: Anyone know what this is? Reply #12 - Sep 14^th, 2009 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	I know that I confuse a lot of people, but when you ask what kind of rifle it was, and there were 2 totaly differnt styles of rifles, I new I had lost my mind for sure because my wife has been telling me that for years! Later ACE


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