Yep Don, nice target wasn't it.

Dale, was deep in thought and in a groove.
Once you shoot next to a guy for some years you get to know his body language.

I asked him if he had the conditions down, he said he was shooting low in the center but had a good hunch he was shooting a record target so didn't want to worry bout the score so much.

There were two shots with the center of the bullet just off the line, making the target a 248-8. It was went over with overlays and anything else that could be found to determine if they were in of not.

The group measured .655" center to center in the two widest shoots.

The hole at 10 was the widest, IF it would have been a bit closer to the rest of the holes it would have been maybe .150" tighter.

His barrel groove dia is .308"


Yep he shot the 2 250's in the same relay earlier this year, in the daily agg match, which he won btw. Won the one over the weekend too.

No it`s not a ASSRA record because it was shoot on a score target!
Just great shooting! 
Just like the Rowland was not a record!
Just great shooting!
I would like to say that Steve Garbe will put it in his WSU unlimited class as a new 10 shot group record! He did mine anyway.  Dale`s group should replace my record in the WSU Unlimited Class

I guess I made an assumption based on misunderstanding andto assume does just what my old Statics professor said it does - make an ass of u and me!

HI 
HOW ABOUT A NAME AND EQUIPTMENT USED? 
TOM

"Doesn`t (sic) matter about what he was using! "

Sure it does, I know many who would like to know if he used traditional or modern equipment.  Impressive shooting and knowing the equipment will help us better understand how it came about.

Dale don't read no stinking wind.

He waits until I shoot then he does, OR the little guy in red with horns that sits on his shoulder is saying shoot now to him.

His action is a NYWSS action with a Pac-Nor barrel with a .308 groove dia.

The action was made from a casting that Warren Greatbatch made up a few years ago. Dale built his own block and trigger. as Keith said the barrel is a pac-nor .30 in a 1:10 twist. It is chambered in 32-30 Rem. and the bullet was from a Borton mould.

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I thourght that bashing was stopped at this forum by the board ??

Michael

Charlies' rimfire score ties the old record. It makes four 245-6 targets in that   
match. Evidently a hard hump to get over.

Many congratulations to Dale Reynolds, Marty Conrod and Charlie Persons for their fabulous shooting. It is great to hear about the degree of shooting precision accomplished by our successful ASSRA competitors.

A postive suggestion is that it would be great to have these successes listed in a section on the ASSRA webpage so others can view at their pleasure wether it is to assess the degree they have fine tuned their own firearms or shooting skills or whether it is outsiders wanting to know what degree of success can be achieved in this shooting sport.

Many would also like to know the equipment used as well to achieve that great success, even though it doesn't address the need to develop the skills to achieve such success.

If anyone is interested in my equipment it was:

Action: BSA International Left Hand Martini
Barrel: Ron K Smith gain twist in 416R sst.
          This bbl has less than 300 rounds though it.
Chamber: Ely Match
Gunsmith: Ben Pratt, Fostoria, OH
Ammunition: 22LR Lapua X-act
Scope: 2-1/2" George Mitchell 24X

I hope that I didn't leave anything out.
A blind hog finds an acorn every now and then.

respectfully - the rimfire - cdpersons

Rimfire:

Did you weigh or rim gauge your Lapua ammo? Do you believe this is a valuable practice?
Did Ron Smith's gain twist finish at a 1:16 twist?
Do you have a free floated forearm?
What is your preferred wind detection tool? seismic ribbon, propeller, wind sock or wind gauge? What wind condition did you select or did you hold off and judge wind impacts when you shot?

Dave

shuetzendave - I personally believe that weighing is worth more than rim thickness but that is just my opinion - but in this instance I did neither it was straight out of the box - the RKS bbl finished at 1:15 by my request - he normally finishes at 1:15-1/2 I believe - I use a wind probe and a wind clock with a light tail ribbon.  the forearm is not free floated - we remounted the International front aluminum rail and forearm wood - there was no wind that morning - sort of - more like light little swirls - I guessed more than read the wind that morning - you know sometimes you feel that little puff on your cheek or neck  just as you are getting ready to pinch off the shot and even though everything looks the same you say "not now".
I always hold "off" - my crosshairs will cover a 22 hole at 200 yds so I never aim at the center unless as conditions change they force me to - but in this case I held the same point of aim all 10 shots based on bullet impact from the twenty shots I put on the sighter that I shot before moving to the record target.
I hope that this wasn't more confusing than no answer at all - just got home from back surgery - the rimfire - cdpersons

looks like some great shooting to me. i shoot a bsa mark 3 and have a dwindling supply of federal um1. i have been looking and trying to get something that will shoot in my gun but have not tried the lapua yet
do you caress or bear hug your bsa? mine likes a death grip
have you tried a flat plate attached to the hanger with no wood touching the rest?   i have a "T" shaped plate which is screwed to the hanger. it sets on a slick plastic sheet on the rest.
i have not shot it at 200 but do have a 249 at 100. these bsa rifles are sure finicky but lots of fun
congratulations on some good scores

dave      

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Does that mean I can still hope Charlie?

rimfire
         I guess I don't have to ask you what you think about the high-dollar Lapua X-Act.    leadball

My list is as follows,and in no particular order except for the first "piece of equipment" everyone else is equally
as important but not in order

The late great Marlin Remington Bassett: For sharing his mechanical genius with me in the form of a Bresien
barreled ruger,as well as his time and patience he took to teach me  "if you cant shoot a good group,you wont shoot a good score"

Jim McDerrmott: Consistence in making match quality  ammo and the time to teach me how important it is to cast a good bullet  as well as to remind me that the most important thing is to never forget to have fun.And what turn to take an the way to a match!

Andy Zahornacky: "Just try to do a little better every time and shoot against yourself  and you will improve"
along with a good bench technique and also when to turn on the way to a match!

Dale Renyolds: "more powder and hold off" Along with what to watch for that the flags and probes might not be telling you.And don't forget to look both ways before squeezing the trigger! 

The guys at Massachusetts Schuetzen Society {Roy Piver} for there club motto for a bad target..."its nothing a dollar wont fix"

And my dad George Conroy for showing me how much fun it is to shoot and fish!
To every on else I may not have mentioned in my "Equipment List" that has helped me set my targets or load /unload my gear....or given me pointers along with all the great shooters in this sport thank you for all the help you have given me and the help we share with each other.All the rest powder,primers,scope,its all the same stuff that
every one else has bought/sold,owned rebought.Its the people that count,the story you have told or listened to for the third time.The suggestion some one mentioned to you that you had in the back of your head,that when a friend told you you now know was right etc.So thank every one on your "List" you never know when they wont be around any more. THANKS TO ALL....Marty   

green frog - if you really want to learn you would be better served to go to the people who have been so kind to share their knowledge of the benchrest game and reading conditions with me as I am sure that my knowledge will never surpass theirs. They are:
Paul Amberger
Keith Foster 
Jim Borton
Dale Reynolds
and Jeff Shultz
if I have overlooked anyone it is due to a failing memory and not intent.
Respectfully - the rimfire - cdpersons