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Re: .45-70 / pyrodex
Reply #15 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 7:20am
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GUys,
the joke around here is that if my house ever catches fire there wll be a huge fire ball, and a crater!!!!!
We had a local gent show up to shoot a bpcs match a couple of years ago with a his favorite highwall, and boy he said that thing shot so good at100 with pyropuke. well 60 shots later he had not hit one animal not even the sighters, and we have not seenn him since.
yesterday I was helping a friend get ready for some long range match in nebraske, and he was shooting a couple of different slugs with 63 grs of swiss. in a typical so. tx shifty condititon he managed to shoot a 10 shot group that measured 1.25 vertical by 2 inches horizontal. he is supposed to send me a picture of the target and rifle so I will try to post when i get it.
so why bother with pyro puke? when black is original and it is better.
cheers
irish
  
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DavidVanVorous
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Re: .45-70 / pyrodex
Reply #16 - Aug 12th, 2008 at 4:37pm
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Ive messed with pyrodex a few times (ML  specifically not BPCR) and found it to be only "OK". Big problem I ran into was with compression variations causing some serious inconsistencies regardless of range. The biz about compression is what I fanllay tracked down to and later there was an article in a late '80s copy of MuzzleLoader magazine that also confirmed this suspicion as they found that most of the then available alternatives were very sensitive to compression or lack thereof in comparison to BP proper. The compression inconsitency and effect on accuracy why a little device called the Kadooty was developed and in fact tried in the article.  This widget was supposed to allow one to measure and apply a consistent compression of the powder (through the slug or ball)

As to pyrodex and its other issues, Im reminded of a ML pig hunting trip at  Ft.Hunter-Ligget in CA where a friend had a new Kodiak that he was using pyrodex in. At the end of the day we had to unload and used the typical CO2 unloaders, we hear a kerthwap! at a tree and in looking to see iffen the slug was still useable we find a perfectly formed to breech slug of  pyrodex the load...  Huh

The rifle had been loaded in the evening prior to the days hunt but left uncapped until we hit the field so it was exposed to no more than a 24 hr time at what ever the relative humidity was over night... Sorta said something to me and the others I was with. Next time out the Kodiak owner was using Goex 2f...  Wink 

D.

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Re: .45-70 / pyrodex
Reply #17 - Aug 18th, 2008 at 5:33am
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I have not used pyrodex in cartridges. 
I have had a bit of experience with it in muzzleloaders.   
Caps and flints.
The good days have been low humidity, warm sunny days.   
You will needs a tranquil aura about you.   
Bluebirds singing. 
Bunnies frolicking.   
A disney like castle in the distance.
A unicorn or two standing around.   
A virgin with a fan, another feeding you grapes.
Perhaps a waterfall with a rainbow? ..............Way far away.

Otherwise, when it gets humid, you're screwed!
Rain...fugedaboudit! It aint goin off.
Snow....watch your flashpan brother!


If you gonna use the "propellants" you need an inline with shotgun primers.  Then it still might not work right.
  
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