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Paul_F.
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Pedersoli High Walls: Almost Here...
Jul 19th, 2008 at 7:38pm
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Found this on another board, by Dick Trenk, the US Rep for Pedersoli..
Reproduced here with permission as an FYI for anyone (like me) who thinks that the .38-55 Pedersoli High Wall has got the makings of a mighty fine offhand rifle...
Despite a slightly goofy looking lever  Wink

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Like most people, we cause most of our own troubles !
 
First we invited all BPCR shooters to take their valuable time and send us their desires in a match grade HighWall to be made by Pedersoli and having our super accurate barrel.

Thanks for your input.  The production rifle has the requested shotgun butt, pistol grip, no tang sight and only a blade up front (you wanted to install your own choice in sights). Hand checkering very nicely done, pistol grip butt stock, single set trigger, hex barrel.  The 38-55 has a fast twist 12;1 rifling plus a long chamber 2.130" to hold more powder (Starline makes the long cases). The 45-70 is 18:1 twist rifling and the 45-90 is not yet offered.

So we expected to be supplying dealers at the end of 2007 and the best we could do was show three samples at the January 08 Shot Show and promise delivery  at mid year.

Dealers held back ordering.  Plenty of time until mid year....huh?

We had equipment set up problems which I won't go into because they are common with all firearms makers but the end result is that we are just now shipping the FIRST rifles and guess what..........???  Only Cherry's Fine Guns actually placed an order with us and will have stock as soon as the shipment arrives  by plane and is cleared through customs etc. etc.
 
Our long time larger dealers like Dixie Gunworks, Cabela's, EMF, Flintlock Etc, Cimarron and others, have NOT ordered the High Wall so they won't have any to display or sell.

The current  gas prices, recession worries etc. etc. have caused these prudent business people to hold back on ordering this new target grade rifle which so many shooters were looking for late in 2007 (in time for the 2008 shooting season).
 
Sales efforts by Pedersoli have not produced orders because the buyers have seen no 2008 interest from the thousands of shooters who "were once interested."
 
This message is a request for shooters to phone , email or write to these big dealers direct to their "gun buyers" not just a call to some order taker.    If they receive a fair number of such requests we can expect them to place orders and get some High Walls in stock.

It is in your hands and anything you can do will be appreciated.
On our web site (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links); you can see a photo and specs.

Dick T.




I have an email in to Cherry's to get a retail price on a .38-55..
No, it's not an original 'Wall... but it's one I can do a lot of shooting with while I save up for that "perfect" Original Wall (or the best Meacham or Ballard can build me after I save money for a couple years!).

Paul F.
  
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Reply #1 - Jul 19th, 2008 at 8:52pm
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In the photo shown on the Pedersoli web site, the action frame shows the DP logo.  I advised Mr. P. to remove that and just make the side plain like an original High Wall.
This has been done so what you get will look a bit different.

Dick T.
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 20th, 2008 at 12:17pm
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I would be much more inclined to take this rifle seriously if the lever matched the trigger.  It is a nice looking lever, but this sort of mismatching of features implies a sloppiness which throws doubt on the whole thing, at least for me.  I also wonder about the 1 in 12 twist .38-55, very fashionable with the Dan T. crowd, but wouldn't 1 in 14 or 15 have done as well?  Does the typical customer really want to shoot 380 grain 38's?  Maybe they do, I might just be an old guy!
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 20th, 2008 at 6:10pm
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1878, I agrre with you about that lever. BUT I have to admit I own two rifles with that lever and even though I dislike it, even with wide spaced double sets I do shoot these rifles well. Have experienced this with a Buddy's Pope Hiwall. We both commented that we did not like the "Feel" of the lever but then we went ahead and shot some very respectable scores. The big space behind the trigger would be of benefit with the Single set trigger. Needs to be pushed from behind to set it. I have disliked the Winchester close coupled triggers for years becauss they almost always come with the standard small loop lever and I an uncomfortable trying to set it in such close proximity. That may well be why Pedersoli adopted this trigger. Also may well be they plan to offer wide spaced triggers in the future and this lever will accomodate them. Just my thoughts. Regards, FITZ. Smiley
  

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Reply #4 - Jul 20th, 2008 at 6:16pm
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1878;

You're not the only one with the same comment about the lever.
I gathered that the recievers (and perhaps levers) were made by Uberti for Pedersoli.. wtih the rest of the parts made by Pedersoli.  (I could be wrong about all that...).

If that's the case, they may have been "stuck" with that Lever, and chose not to use the Uberti trigger. Personally, I've decided I'd prefer the SINGLE set trigger over Uberti's double set. 

All supposition on my part, really.

The .38-55 twist is also a guess on my part, but I think I'm right;
It was designed more for the BPCR crowd, who would stuff a 650 grain bullet in a .38-55 if they could... (OK.. a LITTLE exageration...).  So for that target market, no... a 12 twist isn't overkill.   14 or 15 would have been fine for Schutzen uses, of course.

Even given these little foibles, I'm looking forward to seeing one.. or buying one.

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Reply #5 - Jul 20th, 2008 at 7:42pm
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I'm thinking that Lee Shaver will do a 'land rush' business if he can install double set triggers in the Helm lever Pedersoli Highwall.

Anybody know Lee personally?  Maybe they could advance the question to him.

Keep on hav'n fun!
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Reply #6 - Jul 20th, 2008 at 8:06pm
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Hey JD Steele!  I think the FrankenTrigger might finally find a legitimate home!  Visualize a new .38-55 Pedersoli high-wall with affordable DSTs in the image of the FrankenTrigger.  The mind reels!  Shocked

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Reply #7 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 8:07am
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Got any idea what retail on one of those is going to be?

I kinda like the looks of that long lever.  Even with it matched up to the wrong trigger.

Better that to visually ID it, than the huge logo on the side of an otherwise nice lookin' action!

I figure that a standard "S" lever, or a lower tang with wide DST would be a nice addition to the "kit" but as-is, that looks like a decent enough machine.

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Reply #8 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 8:59am
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I know the guys at Cherrys pretty good. They are the dealer I use to sell anything modern.  They good guys to deal with.

Will phone and see if I can find out prices inventory levels etc,

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Reply #9 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 9:12am
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Kevin Cherry wrote, "About mid-August, price is $1,775 + $30 shipping," as of this AM.
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 1:25pm
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I got the same quote at Otto; $1775 +$30 shipping ($1805).

Frustratingly close to the price of a Ballard or C. Sharps High Wall, but not once I "customize" the Ballard/C Sharps, and the advantage of the Pedersoli is that I can have it NOW... not many months from now (the last quote I got from C Sharps..).


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Reply #11 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 8:41pm
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I got the same quote at Otto; $1775 +$30 shipping ($1805).

I was quoted $2500 from our Australian Pedersoli importer. Considering the $AU is near parity with the $US; that's a huge difference!
  

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Reply #12 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 9:11pm
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$1,775 +30 for shipping I just got the email from cherry's as well.  That seems a little high to me, considering that Pedersoli sharps can be had for much less. I would think that once the competition gets going from Dixie, Calbela's, Cimmeron ect. that the price will go down. 
   What do you think of the price?
  
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Reply #13 - Jul 21st, 2008 at 9:50pm
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My opinion on the price?
About $400 over what I would consider the "sweet spot".
$200 over what I'd promised myself I'd consider my "maximum".... but I've about got myself talked into one anyway.
I just WANT one!

I could scrounge an original action, or have Ballard or C Sharps build me one... but I have enough unfinished projects, and am waiting on a few other things to be built, made, imported, etc... and my patience is being tested enough.

For once, I just want what I want NOW... and the Pedersoli in .38-55 is, while not perfect, "pretty close", and I can have it NOW (well, a few weeks...).

I can be shooting this one before I can even get a barrel attached to an action, or before another maker has even started building what I want.

Still think the lever is a little goofy looking for a single trigger.. but what the hell.  Cool

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Reply #14 - Jul 22nd, 2008 at 3:31pm
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Just JYI:

Cherry's price on the .45-70 Quigley is $1,875.00

Cabela's price on the .45-70 Quigley is $1,699.00

I bought a Quigley from Cabela's because they had the best price around.  I just spoke with the purchasing agent and Cabela's price should be just UNDER $1,600.00 for the DP High Wall. That is based on the suggested price listed above of $1,775.00.

  
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