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sharps54
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rifles up or down in safe?
Jul 17th, 2008 at 6:53pm
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Ok, my new-to-me, used CPA rifle arrived today. How do you guys store hooked buttplate rifles in the gunsafe, muzzle up or down?

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Reply #1 - Jul 17th, 2008 at 8:18pm
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     Whichever way fits the most rifles in the safe.         andyz
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 17th, 2008 at 9:08pm
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Muzzle Down. Keeps the oil from running down and soaking into the wood.
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Re: rifles up or down in safe?
Reply #3 - Jul 17th, 2008 at 9:43pm
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Muzzle up without excess oil to run down and spoil the wood!  Roll Eyes

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Reply #4 - Jul 17th, 2008 at 9:53pm
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Thanks for the responses so far, I picked the rifle up this evening but am leaving for a 4 day trip tomorrow so I figured I would ask. I didn't know if there was any issue of leaving it upright on the baseplate for long periods of time. Now that I think about I guess there wouldn't be.

I have read that muzzle down keeps the oil from the wood but more commonly have read it as keeping oil from the breech plug on a muzzleloader. I have also read muzzle down on rifles with heavy duty recoil pads (African rifles) so the pads down loose their "springiness". I have never seen anything about muzzle down hurting a rifle but I wanted to ask.
  
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Re: rifles up or down in safe?
Reply #5 - Jul 17th, 2008 at 10:07pm
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muzzle down will keep over-oiled rifles from having excess oil soak into the rear of the stock mortise.  this prevents discoloring and oxidizing the wood as well as helping the inletting preserve its integrity.  oil damaged wood is ugly and it can cause problems with heavy recoiling and poorly inletted guns.  store muzzle down or simply use common sense and avoid over oiling ???  your choice.   

personally I store mine flat in cases or horizontally on a rack. But if I had to store a gun vertically for any length of time I might consider muzzle down over a short nylon bore fitted plug mounted on a hard base with a felt pad.  this would keep the gun from slipping and protect the muzzle.  I'd consider it for heavy barrelled target guns because I suspect they'd be a little safer that way rather than have the heavy barrel weight, gravity, and angles working against the action bedding and the wrist of the stock
  

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Reply #6 - Jul 17th, 2008 at 10:49pm
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My swiss buttplate rifles all are stored muzzle down simply because they sit better in the safe that way. On the other hand, I store the rest of my rifles either direction to maximize the number of guns in each safe. 
I also store my lever actions in one safe because they can be stored closer together when they are all the same type of action. Sinlge shots go in another safe, and finally the rest in other safes, as bolt guns, etc. take up more room than the others.
By segregating and reconfiguring the inside of the safes I've been able to neatly fit over 40 long guns in a safe designed originally for 16!
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 17th, 2008 at 11:48pm
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My answer would depend on where your safe is located? Mine are in my celler loading room. With a de-humidifier running and the humidity at 45% I still have to keep after the blued metal and even had some kind of mould/fungus growing on the oil finished stock of a custom model 70. The safe had foam on the bottom. I now have plastic blocks under the but plates so that air can circulate better. 
So, if there is the slightest dampness I would go muzzle up with anything but foam or carpet under the butt. If you have Arizona type dryness then muzzle down is probably good.
  
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Re: rifles up or down in safe?
Reply #8 - Jul 18th, 2008 at 8:23am
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Cut a piece of handrail and mount it to a board wide enough to fit in the bottom of your safe. then you can store your rifle with the butt plate over the rail and keep it in the safe muzzle up. When I clean the rifle the last thing I do is run a patch of lanolyn down the bore. It protects the bore and dosen't run all over.

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