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Recent Winchester Special Edition High Walls
Jun 14th, 2008 at 10:28am
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Does anyone have any experience with the recent Winchester Special Edition High Walls?  I know they are Japanese, and that they resemble the Browning Traditional Hunter model of several years ago, but that is all I know.  
  
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Re: Recent Winchester Special Edition High Walls
Reply #1 - Jun 14th, 2008 at 6:09pm
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What I ask trying to ask here is about the barrel quality, chambering...  I know what these rifles look like in the catalog, but I have never handled or fired one.
  
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Re: Recent Winchester Special Edition High Walls
Reply #2 - Jun 15th, 2008 at 12:34am
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1878,

If you are referring to the recent Winchester Limited Edition 34" barrel Creedmoor rifles in caliber .45-90 Win. than they are identical to the Browning BPCR Creedmoor rifles and have 1/2 octagon 1/2 round Badger barrels, as did the Browning's.  I've sold several and can attest to the high-quality contruction.  Several fellows I've sold rifles to can attest to the excellent accruacy.  Winchester (Miroku) made 251 of these.  They came with windage adjustable front sights and soule rear tang sights made by AMT (same as the Browning's)

Winchester also had Miroku make 126 of the limited edition Creedmoor's in caliber .45-90 Win. but with 30" Badger barrels and no sights (but these were set up with a dovetail for front sights and drilled and tapped for a rear tang soule sight)

Winchester also had Miroku make 126 of the limited edition Creedmoor's in caliber .50-90 Sharps, but with 30" Badger barrels and no sights (but these were set up with a dovetail for front sights and drilled and tapped for a rear tang soule sight)

All of the above rifles have 1/2 octagon 1/2 round heavy Badger barrels, shotgun buttplates and pistol grip stocks.  The quality of the Badger barrels speak for themselves.  The chambering was done by Miroku and is the same quality as the original Browning BPCRs and BPCR Creedmoor rifles.  Their reputation for accuracy (given the right loads) is well established, but having made chamber casts and taken carefull measurements of many of the Browning BPCRs, I can attest there are some variations, which are typical of "production rifles".
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If your are referring to the Winchester limited edition rifles with straight tapered octagon barrels and concave buttplates, than the barrel on these rifles were mfg. by Miroku, as was the rest of the rifle components.

Those that resemble the Browning Traditional Hunters are in fact identical to the Browning Traditional Hunters, with one exception, Winchester markings on the barrels.  I don't have any direct experence with these rifles so cannot comment on accuracy, chambering quality, etc.

Wayne

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Reply #3 - Jun 15th, 2008 at 10:18am
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Wayne, 

Thanks for your reply, I was specifically interested in the model that looks like the Browning Traditional Hunter.  Apparently a distributor (Davidson's?) had Winchester make some up in .32-40, and I was wondering if it might be an appropriate starter schuetzen rifle.  The original sights (Marbles tang, blade front) would have to go of course, but it still looks interesting.  The unknowns are Japanese barrel quality, the chamber, twist rate...
  
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Re: Recent Winchester Special Edition High Walls
Reply #4 - Jun 17th, 2008 at 4:04pm
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I have been shooting one these in the 405 WCF for a couple of years now. Outfitted with the Browning soule rear and spirit level front. Great shooter! Barrel cleans up with just a few patches, no leading, chamber fits the Hornaday brass perfectly. 

You have reminded me to check the twist on it. I don't have any trouble with the twist,  even with a 400 grain bullet, just wondering now.

The 32-40 should be a good shooter as well and will have a rear tang and dovetail cut in the front. Some don't and are strictly a scope type affair for sights. I had one in 45/70 without the tang and sold it to get the 405.

I would reccomend these rifles. They are not exact copies of the orignals but are a good rifle and the price is attractive. Wink
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 10:54am
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Howdy from Idaho!
I just bought one of the Limited Edition1885 38-55 from Davidsons.  I'll shoot it tomorrow and report.  1:18 twist.  Overall fit and finish is very good.  It's barrel is marked Winchester Traditional Hunter on one side and Miroku imported by Browning on the other...  Ammo loaded for my H&R Target with .380 diameter cast bullets chamber fine.  I'll slug the bore tonight...
Dusty
  
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