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wildbill
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Wolf .22 Match ammo
Jun 7th, 2008 at 10:36am
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Does anyone know the story of why Wolf .22 Match Ammo is unavailable? I bought a brick a couple years ago when I started this game, and my Ballard really likes it, as did my shooting budget. I purchased that first brick from Outdoor Marksman, and now it can't be found anywhere. Sad thing is, it shot every bit as good, if not better, than the expensive Lapua or Eley ammo at a fraction of the cost. I know Wolf sells ammo from all over Europe, and this Match ammo was made in Germany.
  
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dick_norton
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Re: Wolf .22 Match ammo
Reply #1 - Jun 7th, 2008 at 3:03pm
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My understanding is that the SK Match is replacing that type of low cost
Wolf. A friend of mine just purchased a couple of bricks from Bruno's Shooting Supply in Phoenix. They have a website and will ship. He states
that the ammo is excellant.

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Reply #2 - Jun 7th, 2008 at 3:09pm
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SK makes the Wolf Match Extra and Match Target - all SK match and Wolf match ammo is made with Lapua primed brass - just check the headstamp.  If you want the Wolf try Champion Shooters Supply out of Ohio or Champions Choice out of Tennessee. But the price is not going to be as friendly as two years ago.  you have a good day now - the rimfire - cdpersons
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 7th, 2008 at 5:39pm
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rimfire;
           SK & Wolf rimfire ammo are the same , different boxes.  leadball
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 7th, 2008 at 10:07pm
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Thanks for the helpful information Fellas! Like I said, the Wolf performed every bit as good as the expensive stuff in my rifle, so why bother throwing away money? The cost of ammo is going through the roof as it is. 

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Re: Wolf .22 Match ammo
Reply #5 - Jun 8th, 2008 at 9:22am
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it all boils down to the lot you buy, you can get good or bad 10x, same with the cheaper wolf/SK
  
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Re: Wolf .22 Match ammo
Reply #6 - Jun 8th, 2008 at 11:02am
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It looks like all the rf target ammo makers are revising their lines. dropping old standbys, reducing their selections, and for some reason not lowering prices either.  must be something to do with the decreased dollar value on the international market,  corn, and oil prices or the coming election.

As a possible aalternative to the Wolf:
At EG last month I was given a box of some Aguila 22 rf match (Superextra I think--I forgot and tossed the empty box) ammo to play with,  its Ely cased and primed I believe and priced at about the same level as the Wolf TM.
it was windy and condition were a long long ways from ideal for evaluation but it was shooting to about the same point of impact and the group/patterns seemed to be about the same as I normally get from the Wolf which my rifle likes.

while I still have most of a case of Wolf I'll be taking a closer look at the Aguila especially for my 22 rf offhand rifle. 

obviously your lot and batch may vary,  to paraphrase GF's  "YMMV"
  

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Reply #7 - Jun 8th, 2008 at 2:08pm
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Thanks DWS. I looked at some Aguila on Midways' site and it was out of stock and a back order was ok, with a very attractive price. The reviews were pretty encourageing as well. Along with everything else, brass and copper are at a premium because the Chinese and India are purchaseing vast amounts of metals. It would appear they are having their "Industrial Revolution" now.
  
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Re: Wolf .22 Match ammo
Reply #8 - Jun 9th, 2008 at 8:13am
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Rimfire ammo is the cheapest part of shooting matches.  Rim-fire Hudson sighters and all may spend 20 bucks total.  And burn 30 gallons of gas out and back from the match. Not to mention all the other cost.

Every shot counting winners vs also rans in a 100 shot match 4 or 5 off shots difference.  Is it worth saving 10 dollars and risking flyer's  with cheap stuff ? 

Not for me. Buy Ely best you can get and practice with there less expensive line.


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Reply #9 - Jun 9th, 2008 at 11:35am
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Hey Boats,
   You must be a former Navy man or some such. I'm a retired Airedale CPO myself. At any rate, ammo and rifles are two variables that don't necessarily compliment each others performance consistently. I may not have been clear on how much of the expensive stuff I've put through my rifle, but it's been enough to let me know my rifle doesn't care for it that much. I happened upon the Wolf ammo 2 years ago and it shoots much more accurately and consistently in my rifle than any of the other high dollar ammunition. That being said, I guess I could go on a spending spree on rifles until I found one that would shoot the expensive ammo. ( Sounds like a government procurement program. I could do that with other folks money ) I count myself fortunate that this firearm likes the less expensive ammunition, but I know that could change if the particular line is dropped or if the manufaturer changes primer mix, powder or any other variable. Even a bad lot shows it's ugly head from time to time. Bottom line is, I won't purchase and shoot ammunition based on price alone. If I can get a great performing ammunition at a good price, I'll do it. If I have to spend a kings ransom on great performing ammo for my rifle, than I guess I'll have no choice.
  
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Re: Wolf .22 Match ammo
Reply #10 - Jun 9th, 2008 at 5:33pm
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Wild Bill, Coast Guard, So you can see I am going to be contrary. Don't take offence please.

My unpopular belief that most will say is false is low priced ammo shooting well is the result of short run test not showing up problems.  As far as rifles "liking" ammo thats another popular and often repeated myth. All the gun magazines run the same article several times  a year, which one the rifle liked.

The top shooting teams won't pack ammo that each shooter decided his rifle "liked" before getting on the plane for China this summer. Teams test for consistency work out a sponsorship deal with one of the major ammo companys and run it though every thing they have. All the same. Imagine a couple of dozen high strung young competitors worrying about the rifle liking a certan brand or lot rather than focusing on shooting well ?  Not a recipe for sucess.

The question is will the ammo throw flyers in a long run.  Few good groups won't show that.  I proved this to my self when I had to shoot smallbore prone for 3 years while working in Austraila.  No other matches avalable nearby. Only offhand was Air Rifle.  Not having shot prone for some time qualified right  away in the 4th or lowest level.   I wanted to bost my performance.  The qualifiers were best 20 20 shot matches or 400 rounds scored. Club ran 1 for record and one pratice every Wed night 2 for record and one pratice on Sat.   You could mess one up and not a problem they only scored the top 20 matches. sort of like our re-entrys.  And with 150 matches for record a year sounds easy.

One of the top shooters pulled me aside and gave good advice. "It's a difficult sport and use the best you can buy".   Year later with over 70 matches for record shot I jumped from 4th class to 2nd,  By 3 points. One flyer would have ruined the whole season.  I watched 3 bricks of Ely match go down range and never saw a single off shot that was not my fault.  The new production Federal 711 B I am using for pratice now gives flyers misfires or "bloop" sounding shots, not many but enough to remember.  My last lot of Federal 900 B never has given any cause for concern. Finishing 4th brick of it up now and since no more is being produced will switch back to Ely.

Look at the match results for ASSRA Schuetzen matches.  Not the throway re-entrys, the single entry matches, Very few points seperate the good shooters from also rans. Might as well use the best you can.

My last and again argument no one is going to agree with, It's going to cost me a couple of hundred dollars to shoot Bushy Mt end of this month. Why risk results by using 3 dollar per box ammo instead of 7 or even 10, Only going to shoot 3 boxes anway.

Thats my take on cheap ammo.

Boats
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Reply #11 - Jun 9th, 2008 at 6:41pm
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with the boats on this one, using cheap ammo in a match is like using cheap line on a fishing rod. flyers and broken line are no good.. especially when money was bet on the shot or fish..

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Re: Wolf .22 Match ammo
Reply #12 - Jun 9th, 2008 at 6:44pm
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PS....
cmp has some good buys on the wolf brands or sk or whatever its called now.. IF,,, you belong to a qualifing club..

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Re: Wolf .22 Match ammo
Reply #13 - Jun 9th, 2008 at 7:15pm
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CMP has Auguila, it uses the Ely priming system (they bought the eqiupment and rights I hear) but it is not cases and primed by Ely. I have shot both types offered and was not overly impressed, one was hard to chamber and extemely dirty, other shot OK.
  
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Re: Wolf .22 Match ammo
Reply #14 - Jun 9th, 2008 at 8:59pm
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What Boats said, word for word.
Regards, Joe
  
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