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A rolling block in .50 2 1/2?
May 9th, 2008 at 10:33am
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I'm thinking about building a large game rifle on a Carl Gustaf 67/89 Remington rolling block action, and would like to chamber it in .50-90 Sharps. But I know the Remington is funny about which cartridges will enter the bore and clear the hammer nose. The .50-70 will, of course, but I am less certain about the .50-90. Anyone know?
  
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Re: A rolling block in .50 2 1/2?
Reply #1 - May 9th, 2008 at 12:01pm
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Dave,

Should Bill in Oregon not be interested, I would be. Although heaven knows I don't need another project.

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Michael
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Reply #2 - May 12th, 2008 at 2:03pm
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Bill,you might be using the wrong Swedish roller-the commercial shotgun roller works much better with the big cartridges.It was made to clear a 21/2" 12ga.or 16ga.shell.We have 12 guns in use at present including several 45-90's and a 40-82. I'm saving one back for myself to barrel in 50-90.If you are interested I have 2 complete shotguns that are not spoken for yet.---Dutchman
  
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Re: A rolling block in .50 2 1/2?
Reply #3 - May 12th, 2008 at 2:44pm
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Dutchman
If nobody else is interested, I am. Please PM details and price as always a pic would help. I am a big fan of rollers and  have a 12mm and a model 33 in Swedish rifles.

Thanks Tom Meyer
  
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Reply #4 - May 12th, 2008 at 2:46pm
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Dutchman, please check your PMs.
  
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Reply #5 - May 12th, 2008 at 5:29pm
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Here is a link to a Gunbroker auction for a roller in 50-110.

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No interest in the rifle,  just read the thread and thought I'd pass it along.

Rick
  
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Reply #6 - May 19th, 2008 at 10:32am
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Take a good look at this thread:

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Reply #7 - May 19th, 2008 at 12:45pm
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The thread with the blown up RB action is a good read.

With the chambering that the blown up gun was in (.450 x 1.5") it is likely that the loads were to a pressure that the action was never expected to see. Esp. if there was a screwup on the part of the loader!

There is a really good write-up on the 8x58R loads, with a bunch of info from the Norma Tech department here at (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

Among the other details, is that he RB loads were less than the Krag loads. This is worth knowing!

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Reply #8 - May 20th, 2008 at 11:01am
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I am new at this but that blown up gun looks like its chambered for a belted round
  
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Reply #9 - May 20th, 2008 at 3:34pm
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Well, I managed to get a very nice Carl Gustav roller built in 1875 and rebuilt for the 8X58 in 1893m with all parts re-serialed. The bore is shot, thank gosh, so I have no pangs of conscience about having the Green Mountain .50 octagon tube fitted and chambered to .50 2 1/2. Dave Higgenbotham e-mailed me that the cartridge should fit fine with just a bit off the hammer nose. I'll probably use plain Treebone wood, and fit a Remington "Rough and Ready rear and copper penny front, and have a good, plain BPC workhorse. I'm not terribly interested in shooting anything but BP and soft lead in an older roller, so will not fret too much about safety issues.
By the way, I am not one to place undue faith in Swedish steel. There was a photo some years back in either Handloader or Rifle of a pile of metal fragments. The one diagnostic piece was the upright  checkered cocking piece on a Model 94/96 Swedish Mauser.
  
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Reply #10 - May 20th, 2008 at 3:49pm
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BillOregon wrote on May 20th, 2008 at 3:34pm:
I'll probably......fit a.....copper penny front.


The rdnck turned me on to this trick ~10 years ago, it works well.
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Reply #11 - May 20th, 2008 at 4:28pm
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Re: Swedish Steel and undue faith.

Swedish steel is well regarded in the time-frame under discussion..
But it is/was still late 19th and early 20th century tech.

You can blow anything up if you try hard enough.

Still, with that in mind, IF all other factors are equal (and hey, when are they, really?), the Swedish steel will be higher quality.

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Reply #12 - May 21st, 2008 at 8:52am
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BillOregon wrote on May 20th, 2008 at 3:34pm:
I'll probably......fit a.....copper penny front.


The rdnck turned me on to this trick ~10 years ago, it works well.
Regards, Joe


Copper penny front??? Do tell.

Some of us have to rely on the oldtimers we find online to tell us some of the tricks. Smiley

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Re: A rolling block in .50 2 1/2?
Reply #13 - May 21st, 2008 at 10:46am
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Trev: You simply exchange half a copper penny for the blade in a front sight. Some file the edge that faces your eye when sighting the rifle perpendicular. The copper handles light well and is supposed to be easier to pick up, especially against game, than blued steel. There ahs been considerable discussion of the penny sight on the Shiloh Sharps rifle forum.
  
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Reply #14 - May 21st, 2008 at 9:25pm
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The discussions on the Shiloh forum led me to believe it must be an Indian Head Penny to be correct Wink  Terry
  

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