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Ruger #1 conversion??
Apr 29th, 2008 at 11:42am
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Has anyone ever seen or converted a ruger #1 to rimfire??
  
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Reply #1 - Apr 29th, 2008 at 12:02pm
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yes,  I have one.  There have been several others at the matches at Etna Green. the gunsmiths at Johnson's Gunshop in Adrian Michigan (advertise in the Journal) did mine and a few more in the past couple years.  I have been told of other gunsmiths who have done it as well.

It basically consists of rebarrelling or relining the existing barrel, rechambering, and modifying the block/link to move the firing pin strike to the rim of the cartridge.  In addition the extractor/ejector will have to be reworked and on mine that proved to be the trickiest part of the process. In principal it is a simple process but complex if done properly.
 I think any skilled gunsmith who works on Rugers regularly could do the job if allowed the time to figure out the details.

Mine was done more or less as an experiment using an ASSRA-marked #1 action in combination with a barrel replacement, tight match chamber, action tune  (Steve gave me a an ultra-crisp 2# trigger while retaining ALL of the factory parts--except a Zika speed hammer set)   I could not possible be happier with the rifle.  I use it as a bench rifle for the 200 yard rimfire matches.  With premium ammo and in the hands of a more skilled "wind-reader" I'm convinced it could be a winner and maybe a record setter.

The other one at Etna Green this past weekend was based on an ex-45-70 #3.  I'm not sure about the barrel set up and as I recall the internals had been simplified somewhat.  It was the first match for that rifle and I don't know how well it was shooting.
  

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Reply #2 - Apr 29th, 2008 at 12:05pm
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Two Ruger #1/#3 conversions were on the line at Etna Green this weekend. Both by gunsmith Steve Durren who is working for Ballard Arms and I believe is still doing it, just at the new employers lacation.
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 29th, 2008 at 2:20pm
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I asked Steve if he was doing other rifle work besides for Ballard's.

He told me Yes, but all work is done though and billed through Ballard Arms

Ballard Arms
9562 Sand Lake Hwy
Onsted MI 49265

517 467 6560

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Reply #4 - Apr 29th, 2008 at 3:20pm
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Good to know that Keith, 

I was a bit hesitant to mention him by name because of the job change.  If anyone is interested in such a conversion I can recommend his work with absolutely no hesitation at all.  I know too that if one is willing to reline the existing barrel rather than replace it with a new one it is NOT a terribly expensive project.

Zack Durren, Steve's son, is now the resident 'smith at Johnsons and I've had him do some work for me since Steve switched to Ballard.  As far as I can tell the quality and workmanship standards are the same and I'm sure that if Zack has a question he knows who to call on for help.

One of the other conversions I have seen was done on a #3 some years back by Mark Penrod of North Manchester IN.   I did not get a chance to shoot it or see any targets fired by it so I have no idea how it functioned but Mark has a good reputation for his work.
{EDIT:   I posted a pic of this one in the multi-finger lever thread in the gunsmithing forum}
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Reply #5 - Apr 30th, 2008 at 1:20pm
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DWS8130 - Just crious is the block brought up further or not as much in order to align witht the rim?
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 30th, 2008 at 3:30pm
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Pat:I understand it can be either raised or dropped.  In the case of mine Steve chose to raise it---he had a specific reason for doing it that way, but I don't remember what it was.   {EDIT:  I'm second guessing my self on this--now I'm not sure whether he raised or lowered it---I need to get it out tomorrow and check to be sure--DWS}
 I also had him put a slight bevel on the top edge of the block to help seat ammo.  however the chamber is tight enough that I use a wooden "pusher" to breechseat the match grade 22 ammo the last 1/8th or so into the chamber.  the rifling fully engraves the "bands" on the bullet.

on a side issue---where did you find that little 22 rf ammoholder you were using---you can pm me if you want.


KingLouie: in one of the other forums--gunsmithing maybe there is a thread about schuetzen levers on rugers.  I posted a picture there of another 22 rf conversion you might want to see.
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Reply #7 - Apr 30th, 2008 at 3:52pm
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DW, The item is called an 869 Cartridge tray it is made by gehmann. It is two sided and top heavy. I cut and then sanded the bottom side off and it's perfect. I have also seen them inletted into larger blocks of wood for stability. I beleive I bought them from Champions choice in TN. 
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Reply #8 - Apr 30th, 2008 at 3:57pm
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yup, they have them, just looked. YIPES, they're up to $15 from $7.50 I paid last year. Must be the falling dollar and rising oil. Oh well, you only need one and they do work.
  
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Reply #9 - May 2nd, 2008 at 6:35pm
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Reply to the Ruger # 1 Conversion,
I have one that John Korzinek of Canton, PA built around 1995, very, very, nice job. He used a 22 inch Shilen chrome molly match barrel with a tight match chamber, speed hammer, set trigger, color case harden receiver, lever etc. very nice gun.

This one is set up with the block in the low position so that it gives a 6 o'clock firing pin hit, it seems that most of the big time 22 caliber bench rest shooters think it's much better than a 12 o'clock hit. I really cant say how much better as I don't have anything to compare it to, it will shoot in the .2's at 50 yds and under one inch at 100 yds on a nice day with the right ammo.

Donor gun was a 243. The firing pin is the original center fire pin so the block did not have to be modified in any way and the gun can be put back to center fire without much trouble, only things needed would be the barrel, the longer breech block arm or link to raise the block to the original center fire position because the original was shortened for the 6 o'clock hit, and a extractor for the center fire cart.
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Re: Ruger #1 conversion??
Reply #10 - May 4th, 2008 at 6:41pm
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Is John Korzinek of Canton, PA still in business?
  
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Reply #11 - May 4th, 2008 at 10:23pm
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Hi  Irascible,
About a year and a half or so ago he was. I don't know about now, I tried to get hold of him recently, he did such a nice job on my # 1 in 22 LR that I wanted  to see if he would do up a ASSRA legal center fire # 1 for me so I would have a matched set but haven't had any luck getting hold of him, the phone number I had for him is no longer working.
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