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Brent Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #60 - Mar 27^th, 2008 at 1:59pm	Print Post
	Quote: I have been immersing myself in the black art of slug gun shooting and sort of keeping off the skyline; however, I think I may have just let my hat show above the ridge. Good thing you have a tall hat (or is that a short head ) looks like no damage done other than a little extra cranial ventilation... Brent


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tenx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 385 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2008	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #61 - Mar 27^th, 2008 at 3:40pm	Print Post
	JD, Quote: One of the then-BoD was actually heard to say that he hoped the ASSRA would not grow any larger since he might not get to use his favorite shooting bench at EG if more folks attended the shoots. Gee! This sounds like one of the "old timers" who helped form the club, and is the main reason our club doesn't affiliate with the ASSRA. Might get to many people show up so we have to rotate off the benches. Steve, Oh! Was that your hat showing above the ridge? I thought it was something a little lower. PETE


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xxgrampa Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #62 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 1:38am	Print Post
	all this talk reminds me.. better get my dues in for the next couple of years... i love schuetzen... i really do.. God bless etna green and the geezer wagon.. as i live in ca. the green for me, will in all likelyhood never happen.. but i don't care.. i'm proud to be associated with this fine, fine organization.. hoo-ray, hoo-ray for the assra and the green.. ..ttfn..grampa..


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3953 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #63 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 7:28am	Print Post
	I think for MOST of us EG will never happen! BUT that's not a good enough reason to kill it; on the contrary, it's good reason to support something that facilitiates bringing out the BEST shooting - by competition. I support the olympics for the very same reason. Rules are not sacred; they are guidelines. What's sacred are the fundamentals - 2nd amendment, quality shooting - civilized competition, fun.

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KAF Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #64 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 9:11am	Print Post
	The current rule book was reprinted in 1996, there were no changes, or revisions at that time. I am not sure when any rule was revised, but it hasn't been as far as I can remember. The ASSRA had approved traditional rifle rules a few years ago. But no matches have been added in the traditional class. I myself would welcome such matches, for those who shoot the originals or the reproductions in the original form, sights, etc. I think Steve is totally correct in his comments. Easy is much better. I would like to see a group of members to contact the board and request that traditional matches be implemented. All it takes is a shown interest and a request to the current board to get it going. See this page for contact info or the board members. EXPRESS your opinions. If you are a non member and support the traditional matches and it might draw you back say so. President: Dennis Hrusosky Phone (815) 729-0460 E-mail President@assra.com Vice President: Robert Carow Summer Phone (815) 455-3159 Winter Phone (727) 392-3811 E-mail VicePresident@assra.com Treasurer: Richard Eesley Phone (630) 369 – 1310 E-mail Treasurer@assra.com Secretary: Laurie Gapko Phone (608) 628 – 0536 E-mail Secretary@assra.com Journal Editor John Merz Phone (865) 671-6267 E-mail JournalEditor@assra.com Director A: Ed Cooksey Phone (517) 265-6238 E-mail DirectorA@assra.com Director B/ Range Manager: Charles D. Persons Phone (260) 244 – 3317 E-mail DirectorB@assra.com Director C: Jon Welda Phone (507) 894 – 4751 Cell (608) 386 – 4570 E-mail DirectorC@assra.com Director D / Membership Admin. / Asst. Schuetzenmeister Keith Foster Phone (419)-393 – 2976 E-mail Membership@assra.com Director E: Steve Durren Phone (517) 264 – 0528 E-mail DirectorE@assra.com Director F: Ken Meyer Phone (260) 667-0737 E-mail DirectorF@assra.com Director / Schuetzenmeister Jim Borton Phone (937) 667 – 5027 E-mail Shuetzenmeister@assra.com Clubs Coordinator Martin Stenback Phone (920) 688 – 2957 E-Mail Clubs@assra.com I sure hope I made sense, the effect of meds after a bit of suergery has the mind a bit fussy.


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SPG Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #65 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 11:03am	Print Post
	KAF, One does not have to have special matches for traditional rifles...simply have the Traditional category for every match. When the WSU does a match it is understood that there is the high traditional competitor as well as the high open class competitor. The medal that one wins has a bar denoting traditional or open class. Interesting to note that in our matches traditional shooters outnumber open class competitors by a substantial margin...and the majority of the traditional class shooters are using black powder. I think this is something to consider when trying to make decisions on how to grow the number of participating shooters. Again, the beauty of Traditional and Open classes is that no shooter with a single shot rifle is turned away. The class scenario is also an excellent way to handle those troublesome issues like shooting coats, shooting shoes, tuners, thumbhole stocks, ect. Also, I have noticed at every match that there is quite a good "bull session" between those shooting traditional and those shooting open class rifles. A friendly and positive exchange of information that really contributes to the overall experience of the match...something that we all want to see and which makes for a strong association. Gute Ziele, Steve


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KAF Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #66 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 11:38am	Print Post
	"One does not have to have special matches for traditional rifles...simply have the Traditional category for every match." BINGO, say the Schoyen match, 10 shots for score, 200yds bench, any sight. Class Traditional......... Class Open or whatever........... Seems so simple yes? And I bet a BUT comes up.


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Shooter_1 Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #67 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	OK, the new guy will do the BUT. I cant get to my "old" rule book right now to see if this is already covered, but who or what decides what is Traditional and what is not, will it be left up to each and every Schuetzenmeister across the country. Example, I have a Ruger # 1 that looks like a Schuetzen rifle but it's new, more or less like a CPA rifle, new but looks like a Stevens. What class would theses be in. Shooter


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Jim_Borton Global Moderator Offline Posts: 449 Location: Tipp City Joined: Apr 9^th, 2004	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #68 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 12:34pm	Print Post
	A "GREAT " point, Shooter_1!!!!!

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KAF Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #69 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 1:51pm	Print Post
	"Example, I have a Ruger # 1 that looks like a Schuetzen rifle but it's new, more or less like a CPA rifle, new but looks like a Stevens. What class would theses be in." If I remember right, a shooters council or whatever it is called in the rules that were adopted for the traditional class by the ASSRA. would make a ruling on that type rifle. I do know there are many folks that are in the ASSRA or on the board that could determine that. Pretty easy I thought. Unless you are agaisnt anything that might be of importance to the membership. I see it as if somebody is for the whole of the ASSRA, it will be figured out, and not have a negitive attitude towards change for the good of all.


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Shooter_1 Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #70 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	Sounds good to me. I am not against anything that might be of importance to the membership or the good of the ASSRA. Does ASSRA have a rules committee, and if so who is on it that members can talk to about things like this. Shooter


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SPG Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #71 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 2:45pm	Print Post
	Shooter, If the Traditional Class is defined by a technology cutoff date...the WSU uses 1917...it is very easy to determine what is Traditional and what is Open. The Ruger is obviously a post-1917 patent so it would be an Open Class rifle. The cutoff date makes it easy to determine this without having to go to a board of directors or other governing body. Take a look at the WSU rules that are posted on the website and I think you will get a clear picture of how easy this works. Gute Ziele, Steve


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Shooter_1 Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #72 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 3:08pm	Print Post
	Thanks Steve, I think I'm starting to go blind reading all these rules, just to much stuff for a new guy to adsorb all at once, I'll leave that up to the guys that make up the ASSRA rules, they know much more about such things than I do. If the technology cut off date is 1917, I guess that means that a lot of rifles being used are originals and/or collectors items, or the newer ones being used are exact copies of the originals, am I correct on this. Shooter


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SPG Ex Member	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #73 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 4:42pm	Print Post
	Shooter, Yes, you are correct...reproductions faithful to original pre-1917 patents are legal for traditional class. Steve


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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2250 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: Barrel Tuners? Reply #74 - Mar 28^th, 2008 at 11:41pm	Print Post
	Also take a look on the ISSA website, (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links), for the general rules and traditional class rules. David Kaiser Montezuma, IA

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