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blackbeard
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The "Luna" Schutzen ?
Mar 17th, 2008 at 4:30pm
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Have any of you gentlemen heard of a "Luna" Schutzen Rifle?
I have the opportunity to purchase on from an estate sale but I have never heard of this manufacturer/maker.

Any idea where or when these were made or the reputation of this make?

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blackbeard
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Reply #1 - Mar 17th, 2008 at 4:48pm
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Here is a Picture of it, maybe that will help.
  
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blackbeard
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Reply #2 - Mar 17th, 2008 at 4:49pm
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Picture # 2
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 17th, 2008 at 4:52pm
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Somewhere in the back of my head, I think I've read about it..

I'm PRETTY SURE it was in one of Tom Rowe's three volume set "Alte Schiebenwaffen".
Bloody expensive books (about $100 each, and there's three of 'em), but DARN pretty pictures, and loads of info on varieties of German(ic) Schützen rifles that most of us are probably never gonna see in real life.

Hope this helps!

Paul F.

By the way, just from that pic... BUY IT NOW! and worry about what it is later...  Smiley

  
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Re: The "Luna" Schutzen ?
Reply #4 - Mar 17th, 2008 at 6:33pm
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The trigger guard, triggers, stock and thumb rest look exactly like my Buechel Meister but the rear sight mounting is odd. The only reference to Luna in AlteScheibenbusche that I could find is a Kleinkalibrebusche, that is, a .22, but the action does look similar.
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Reply #5 - Mar 17th, 2008 at 7:15pm
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Appears to just be a modified Aydt action, which is an Aydt without the takedown lever or external extractor. It should be a very sound action, and probably 8.15x46R caliber.
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 17th, 2008 at 7:41pm
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If you google Luna Target Rifle, you get some suggestion that it was from Stoeger (who strangely imported a shotgun that once sold for the equivalent of $12,000 in today's money).
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 17th, 2008 at 9:03pm
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This "Luna" is a .22.  The asking price is $ 1700.00.
Any thoughts on the price?
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 17th, 2008 at 10:04pm
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Price good to wonderful.  Just my guess, but looks like a hell of a rifle.
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Re: The "Luna" Schutzen ?
Reply #9 - Mar 18th, 2008 at 12:55am
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From Gun Trader's guide:  Made in Mehlis, Germany by Ernst Friedr Buchel.  29 inch barrel, 8 1/4 lbs, made prior to WW II.  Market value in 1986 was $750.  HTH
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Re: The "Luna" Schutzen ?
Reply #10 - Mar 18th, 2008 at 9:07am
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I would say it is a late gun judging from the sight, WWII era or later so it would not be from the Scheutzen era per se but it is a fine piece in quite nice condition and ultimately worth the asking price IMHO, I'd try $1500 if possible but would by it none tre less.
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 31st, 2008 at 4:47pm
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This "Luna" is a .22.  The asking price is $ 1700.00.
Any thoughts on the price?

Seems like a decent price. Did you buy it? I had wanted the Luna Free pistol, but have not seen one in a long time.
  
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Reply #12 - Apr 4th, 2008 at 2:59pm
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The gentleman who posted this thread said someone beat him to it. Too bad. Sad
  
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Re: The "Luna" Schutzen ?
Reply #13 - Apr 5th, 2008 at 9:18am
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Just speculating here:

I suggest that the rear sight is a later "add-on" and that the original sight would have been some sort of open sight which clamped onto the dovetail on the barrel.

The "Swiss Federal" Martini 22rf I shoot (without the sidemounted bar and rear sight adaptation) uses a high-quality, finely adjustible, almost-military style open sight that clamps to a dovetail block set into the barrel. the sight would clamp equally as well to the Luna barrel
 I am wondering if there was some sort of specific offhand 22 rf match being shot in the early part of the last century that required an open sighted rifle.  perhaps something a bit later than classic big-bore schuetzen and evolving towards the early ISU-type "free-rifles"

I also suspect that the forend and palm rest might be later adaptations as well along with the rear sight to fit the rifle into early "free-rifle" competition.

   The more I look at it, stock shape, sling swivel eyelets etc the more it looks like it would fit the same class rifle as my "swiss-federal" if you took off the rear sight, added an open sight and removed the palm rest

again just speculatiing!
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Re: The "Luna" Schutzen ?
Reply #14 - Apr 5th, 2008 at 9:39am
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Most German Schutzen rifles were made with a slightly tapered rib on the barrel top on which could be mounted a "field sight": this was a normal adjustable rear sight. The locking mechanism allowed it to be positioned anywhere on the rib, to suit the shooters eyesight.  "Field" matches were usually shot on a different target to the standard "German Ring" type used in Schutzen. Swiss matches were shot by a people who were and are part of the militia. They did not normally use aperture sights except in special open target comps.
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